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- From: eggert@twinsun.com (Paul Eggert)
- Subject: Re: Article - Behind the Terminal
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- Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 15:15:34 GMT
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- Rob Kling writes:
-
- kling> Few of the books that I know about systems analysis take infrastructure
- kling> into account -- and this is especially true of the texts which are
- kling> used in university courses. I cite the better books, which I know of,
- kling> in my article.
-
- Kling's article presents an extensive bibliography for web-like models,
- but for ``traditional'' models, instead of citations the article
- contains only a conveniently weak description that has little to do
- with how system analysis is practiced or taught. If you turn to real
- practitioners, or even real textbooks, you'll find a much different
- picture. Here's just one example: Barry Boehm's _Software Engineering
- Economics_ (Prentice-Hall, 1981), a book that has been often used in
- university courses. I'll quote from Boehm's introduction:
-
- As you begin to confront practical software engineering
- situations, you will find that they contain both programming
- problems and nonprogramming problems: operational problems,
- budget problems; schedule problems; problems in determining the
- relative priorities of users' needs. Bypassing the
- nonprogramming problems to concentrate on the programming
- problems will almost always lead to trouble later on.
-
- Far from ignoring infrastructure issues, Boehm puts several of them on
- the front cover of his book. He doesn't mention the web model -- after
- all, his book was written in 1981 -- but he clearly understands that
- social context is crucial, and I don't think that the web model would
- have helped him a bit. Although specialized to just software
- engineering, Boehm's work is far more ambitious and potentially useful
- than Kling's, because it's quantitative, not just qualitative.
-
- eggert> Kling presents no evidence that his models are better than other ad hoc
- eggert> frameworks for describing the social context of computing.
-
- kling> The paper provides some evidence through the analysis of one case study.
- kling> The main contrast in the paper is between web models and dicrete entity
- kling> models.
-
- The only mention of traditional methods in Kling's case study was a
- dismissive remark about how a traditional system analyst would
- probably have made the mistake of choosing TeX over WordPerfect.
- This brief and (in my view) incorrect remark hardly constitutes
- an honest comparison of two rival systems.
-