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- From: uselton@wk207.nas.nasa.gov (Samuel P. Uselton)
- Newsgroups: comp.graphics
- Subject: Re: Message system (was Re: The Best of SIGGRAPH 1992)
- Summary: L-3 ??
- Message-ID: <1992Aug12.170513.2425@nas.nasa.gov>
- Date: 12 Aug 92 17:05:13 GMT
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- In article <=13mrn=.foo@netcom.com> foo@netcom.com (Mark Hall) writes:
- >In article <1992Aug11.170255.14445@nas.nasa.gov> uselton@wk207.nas.nasa.gov (Samuel P. Uselton) writes:
- >)It has a LONG way to go.
- >) Not only was security totally absent (both for sending bogus
- >)messages as well as reading and deleting others stuff),
- >
- > No different than paper version. Has anyone ever asked for ID
- > before you read a paper note?
-
- Agreed. I was extending a previous comment, but didn't number this one
- because it is essentially the same as for paper (no use of *potential*
- electronic benefit, which is of marginal value anyway) and not one of my
- "real" complaints.
-
- >
- >) ... But really, the paper system is superior in several
- >)respects: (1) you can take the paper with you instead of transcribing
- >)from the screen (and there was no paper handy to do the transcribing);
- >
- > In Room L-3 there was a printer, and one of the menu choices was 'print'.
- >
- Little scraps of paper, like in a library, would still have been handy.
-
- Where was L-3? (rhetorical) When I'm running from place to place and
- still missing things and people because at SIGGRAPH I frequently want
- to be in 2 or 3 places at once, the messages need to be accessed at
- some "crossroads" through which I pass anyway, not hidden. This
- problem was exacerbated by the size of McCormick, the subject of other
- complaints.
-
- >) Most importantly,
- >)someone (everyone?) forgot the first rule of replacing an existing
- >)system with an automated version.... leave the old system in place
- >)'til the bugs are out of the new.
- >
- > I believe there was also a traditional paper-and-pushpin board
- >in room L-3.
- >
-
- Where was L-3?
-
- > Part of the crowding problem came from people abusing the telnet
- >privileges. There were some people reading News at the machines. Telnet
- >was disabled on most machines after that. I think with the multiple
- >locations (I always used L-3, not the foyer machines) that more people
- >were probably using the system than could have stood in front of a
- >couple of bulliten boards. How many people can crowd in front of 12
- >linear feet of bulliten board?
-
- I remember more like 24 or 30 feet, at least at some SIGGRAPHs. And, if
- names are written suitably large to be seen at the distance of a few feet,
- more people can spot their own than they could at the monitors.
-
- >
- > Yes, there were problems with the computerized system. You can be sure
- >the former and current implementors of the message system are reading
- >this forum. The issue will also be addressed at SIGGRAPH committee
- >meetings.
- >
- > - mark
-
- Another *potential* convenience, electronically supportable:
- Especially in wide spread situations like McCormick, have several well
- dispersed terminal sites, with access to the same message list.
- E.G.b Have a site near the paper session auditorium, one near the show
- floor, one near the panels room, and one near any place busses pick
- and drop. That is the one thing I can think of that electronics can
- really do *significantly better* than paper and bulletin board.
-
- Sam Uselton uselton@nas.nasa.gov
- 15 year attendee, 17 year member
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