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- Path: sparky!uunet!gatech!psuvax1!ward
- From: ward@math.psu.edu (Brian Ward)
- Subject: Re: Why I love VI
- Message-ID: <Bt0BJG.HAv@cs.psu.edu>
- Summary: crying, with nightmare tears
- Keywords: vi, speed, power, flame
- Sender: news@cs.psu.edu (Usenet)
- Nntp-Posting-Host: descartes.math.psu.edu
- Organization: The Society for Green Traffic Lights
- References: <1992Aug6.220308.10458@bvsd.co.edu> <1992Aug10.141520.2914@news.eng.convex.com> <1992Aug10.154956.5432@Princeton.EDU>
- Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 04:09:16 GMT
- Lines: 111
-
- It amuses me to see how many times this flame war appears. Oh well. I
- should have some fun for a change, I guess...
-
- In an old(er) article, bvaughan@lotka.Princeton.EDU (Barbara Vaughan) writes:
- |I'm always amazed at the fact that the most rapidly evolving field of the
- |20th century attracts so many people who adamantly refuse to evolve with
- |it.
-
- Now, that's a nominee for the next Usenet Olympiad's flame-baiting contest,
- if I ever saw one. Congratulations.
-
- |I'm 47 years old and my first editor was a keypunch machine.
-
- I'm 19, and my first editor was the full-screen thing on the VIC-20. Whee!
-
- |I've known people who refused to abandon their punch cards when tapes came
- |along;
-
- ``I've known people who refused to abandon their pcs when unix came about''
-
- hey wait, I still know these (##$%#!!!) people.
-
- |who refused to abandon their tapes when disks came along,
-
- I can put 5 gigs on a little 5 buck videotape. I just don't see your point.
-
- |who maintained that line editors were vastly superior to full-screen editors,
-
- Most line editors are, especially if the full-screen editor is on a VIC-20.
-
- |who insisted Waterloo Script was a better word processor than Word Perfect
-
- I think that country music is better than WordImPerfect(1). I've actually
- never really seen a program as brain-dead as WordPerfect. Wait, I take that
- back.
-
- Waterloo Script happens to give you better output. However, *roff, will prove
- more versatile. Dare I mention TeX? TeXinfo?
-
- (1) I _hate_ country music.
-
- |and that everything (including word processing) should be done on the
- |mainframe computer because "decentralization" would lead to duplication of
- |effort and lack of portability.
-
- Computers change. However, the idea of centralization is still very
- important. Do you know how difficult it would be without a shared filesystem
- or even a network? Or if everyone managed their own machine?
-
- I, for one, shudder at the the thought of life without dataless clients.
- (/usr nfs mounted for the uninformed. If you don't have a unix system, ignore
- that.)
-
- |I've known people so attached to their editors that they did their program
- |editing on the IBM mainframe and downloaded the program to their PCs.
-
- Hmm. When I had to write my assembler for my final cs211 project on the
- mainframe, I found that xedit was much too slow for typing in the code
- initially. (This was mainly due to all of those damn screen repaints and
- pfkeys.) So I started from scratch with vi on one of my unix machines and
- when finished with writing most of it, I dumped it over to the mainframe
- and debugged it there. Thank god for key bindings (I use emacs key bindings
- on my 3270 sessions, even though I use vi. This may be due to the fact that
- I have written quite a few emacs functions into x3270 like
- transpose-character and backward-kill-word. Maybe I'm just fucked in the
- head, too.)
-
- So, anyway, does that make me one of your implied weenies?
-
- |So stick with old-fashioned paper, Tom. Be the world's greatest typist.
-
- Paper? Where? If you use vi or emacs, (actually, if you use any editor) you
- should not need paper after a reasonable time, like a day, if you are
- familiar with computers. For the newcomer, it might take a week.
-
- |But you'd better be planning a second career, because I've seen five
- |generations of people like you get pushed out by hotshot kids.
-
- Heh. Someone who works for IBM once told me this.
-
- |Office of Population Research
- |Princeton University
-
- Hey wow, did you know that most of the poeple at the Population Reasearch
- Institute here use vi?
-
- |bvaughan@opr.princeton.edu
-
- Hey, why not make that an mx record instead of a cname?
-
- ;; QUESTIONS:
- ;; opr.princeton.edu, type = ANY, class = IN
-
- ;; ANSWERS:
- opr.princeton.edu. 86400 CNAME lotka.Princeton.EDU.
-
- and why doesn't there appear to be an opr.Princeton.EDU subdomain?
-
- > ls opr.princeton.edu
- [princeton.edu]
- Host or domain name Internet address
- (a definite need of a ualarm() in here somewhere...)
-
- this opr-106b.Princeton.EDU stuff is downright stupid, if you ask me.
-
- why ask why? my, time flies. why do i try? are you high? sigh.
-
- -brian
-
- --
- I put this line in here so that you would read it and wonder what it means.
-