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- Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 17:05:57 -0700
- From: Jeff Sicherman <sichermn@csulb.edu>
- Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
- Subject: Re: Getting Ohio Bell to Fix my Line Noise
- Message-ID: <telecom12.644.2@eecs.nwu.edu>
- Organization: Cal State Long Beach
- Sender: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu
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- X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 644, Message 2 of 3
- Lines: 80
-
- In article <telecom12.635.4@eecs.nwu.edu> sbrack@jupiter.cse.
- UTOLEDO.edu (Steven S. Brack) writes:
-
- > I've had Ohio Bell out here twice to get rid of the line noise
- > problem I'm having. The noise comes in short bursts, and almost
- > always appears as the same set of characters.
-
- > A sample: "}i{_~r}i}i}i{_}i
-
- > Noise is much worse during the day, and diminishes at night.
- > The line is quiet to the ear. The oddest thing is that when I call a
- > BBS in my own CO, there is hardly, if ever, any noise. Only when I
- > call other COs is noise a problem. Even long distance isn't noisy.
-
- > Ohio Bell checks the line and says everything's fine. THe
- > most I've been able to get them to do is turn it over to the CO techs
- > to fix. It hasn't helped.
-
- PAT, this appeared some time ago, in a previous Digest. Seems possibly
- applicable; you might want to reprint it:
-
-
- Date: Fri, 28 Sep 90 10:24:23 PDT
- From: Brian Kantor <brian%cyberpunk@ucsd.edu>
- Subject: Re: References/Fixes Needed For "Slippage" on Dialins
-
- When you get "twinklies", consisting of characters having a lot of
- bits on (especially high order bits) like }, you are probably seeing
- your modem attempting to resynchronize. (1200 bps 212 modems use
- synchronous transmission between each other even though you are using
- async to talk to them.)
-
- My experience is that the A-#1 cause of this is a defective or
- misconfigured interface card on one or both ends of one or more of the
- circuits that connect your university's phone switch to the local
- telco's digital switch.
-
- What happens is that the a/d and d/a conversions at opposite ends of
- the trunk occasionally drop a little data. In other words, one or
- more of the 8k/sec samples was damaged and was discarded at the
- receiving end. This has NO measureable effect on voice -- completely
- inaudible -- but it makes the modems lose sync and they blow 1's bits
- at each other until they resync, so you see lots of twinklies.
- Sometimes they switches are misclocked so that they drop one sample
- out of every N, so you see a periodic burst of twinklies every M
- seconds.
-
- This is always repairable, but it will probably take a transmission
- specialist to bring his special test equipment and check for it as the
- normal telco voice quality measurement stuff won't show the problem.
-
- We had this problem big-time here at UCSD when the main campus was on
- one machine and the student housing on another in the same telco
- office -- the two switches in the same building couldn't talk to each
- other without sync slips. The DMS-100 switch was famous for this -- I
- heard they had a production run of line cards that came from the
- factory misconfigured slightly so that they worked ok for voice but
- got lots of slips. I understand they had to pull every single card
- out of the switch to check the jumpers or some equally boring task.
-
- Now that PacBell has fixed that problem with our local switch, we see
- sync slip storms only once or so a year -- typically when they've just
- upgraded one of the central office switches in some other part of
- town. A quick call to their technical people handling the campus gets
- it fixed right fast. I get the impression we find out about it before
- they do, sometimes. (We've got over 200 dialup lines and about 8,000
- students and faculty using them 24 hours a day, so we have a large
- window of opportunity.)
-
- My experience parallels others in this regard -- once you get high
- enough in the telco to find someone who can understand what you're
- saying, they'll get it fixed. If you're not in a position to bang on
- them from an official campus position, try to talk to whoever runs the
- switchroom in your campus phone facility and explain to them what's
- going on. They can get to the right people in the telco, eventually.
-
-
- Jeff Sicherman
-
-