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- Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 02:22:09 GMT
- From: stevef@wrq.com (Steve Forrette)
- Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
- Subject: Re: Pacific Bell and CNID
- Message-ID: <telecom12.630.1@eecs.nwu.edu>
- Organization: Walker Richer & Quinn, Inc., Seattle, WA
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- X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 630, Message 1 of 5
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- In article <telecom12.620.1@eecs.nwu.edu> tshapin@beckman.com (Ted
- Shapin) writes:
-
- > PACIFIC BELL'S PHONE PRIVACY RINGS FALSE, SAYS
- > COMPUTER PROFESSIONALS FOR SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY
-
- There is so much misinformation and misrepresentation in this press
- release, I'm not sure where to start.
-
- > PacBell's proposal will eliminate important safety and privacy
- > protections in the Commission's order, CPSR charged. CNID allows
- > businesses to collect the phone numbers of customers who call them.
-
- Allows BUSINESSES? Caller ID allows *any* subscriber access to the
- calling number. This statement is quite clearly aimed at generating
- an anti-Caller ID sentiment among people who are not familiar with the
- issues involved. Nowhere is it mentioned that the primary purpose of
- Caller ID is to enhance the privacy of residential customers, not
- businesses.
-
- Take a look at other states' imeplementations of Caller ID, and
- exactly who has ordered it. The overwhelming majority of Caller ID
- subsribers are residential customers, interested in protecting their
- privacy rights as recipients of calls (often from the evil businesses
- that CPSR appears to be against). Never mind the fact that Caller ID
- helps protect residential subscribers *against* the privacy intrusions
- of businesses who interrupt the dinner hour, family gatherings, and
- sleep patterns.
-
- Also, look at the telco marketing efforts. Have they marketed Caller
- ID as a wonderful new service to business, which will allow them to
- collect the numbers of people who call, then generate huge direct-mail
- lists? Not! The marketing consists of explaining to *residential*
- customers how Caller ID can enhance *their* privacy and convenience.
-
- > The Commission's order guarantees privacy protections for all
- > Californians. PacBell proposes to eliminate a key privacy protection
- > called Per-Line Blocking with Per-Call Unblocking.
-
- Not all Californians, not even a majority of Californians. It
- protects the privacy considerations of those who like to make
- anonymous calls.
-
- > This feature prevents home numbers from being collected by
- > businesses, unless the caller decides to give it to them. Phone
- > companies would prefer to only offer per-call blocking, a scheme in
- > which caller numbers are always given out unless the caller remembers
- > to dial a blocking code before dialing the desired number.
-
- "Being collected by businesses" Again, the CPSR is completely ignoring
- the facts of the record. The great majority of Caller ID subscribers
- are residential users. Thus per-line blocking has the biggest impact
- on individuals, not businesses.
-
- > "If this happens, Californians will inevitably receive more junk mail,
- > more annoying phone calls, and greater invasions of their privacy,
- > some of which may be dangerous," said CPSR Chair and user interface
- > expert, Dr. Jeff Johnson.
-
- Inevitably? Where has this happened elsewhere? Name one place.
- Caller ID is currently available in many states, and in some of these
- for a few years now. Why have we not heard of horror stories of
- people buried in junk mail? Why have we not heard of people being
- deluged with extra telemarketing calls because they placed a call to a
- business with Caller ID?
-
- In contrast, what we HAVE heard is an incredible drop in nuisance and
- harrassment calls, as well as greater control over one's telephone.
- Haven't the statistics shown that nuisance/harassment calls drop about
- 50% almost overnight? And CPSR, please don't try to tell us that Call
- Trace is the answer to all of our problems. Perhaps your police
- department is different than mine, but generally speaking, they don't
- have a huge surplus of resources to track down every junior high
- school kid that enjoys making crank calls. Sure, Call Trace is useful
- to track down and prosecute people who make threatening calls, but I
- don't think anyone would consider it a practical weapon against the
- mindles "crank" call.
-
- > PacBell claims that CNID would give people more control over their
- > privacy by providing the phone number from the calling phone. This is
- > the wrong technological answer to the problem according to Johnson.
- > "What people want to know is who is calling, not what phone is being
- > used. If my wife's car breaks down and she calls me from a pay phone,
- > that's a call I want to answer. CNID doesn't give me any information
- > that will help me do that."
-
- "If you don't find Caller ID useful, then don't buy it!" Since I (and
- many other people by the reports of the 50,000+ *residential* users in
- Chicago that signed up during the first week it was offered there)
- would find Caller ID very useful, I can't imagine why the Socially
- Responsible among us would want to take our right of privacy away.
-
- I hate to keep returning to reality, but the fact of the matter is
- that there are a great many people who have very real and frequent
- interruptions of their personal business in their homes by unwanted
- telephone calls, and no effective way to distinguish the desirable
- from the undesirable. As far as Caller ID causing an increase in
- unwanted calls as a result of "business" data collection, this is just
- a theory, and in fact has NOT come true in those areas with current
- Caller ID deployment. Why do we have to prohibit what a great deal of
- people would fine useful in enhancing their privacy when the arguments
- against it are theoretical (or is it heretial?) and have not happened
- as predicted in other juristictions?
-
- As far as the "wife at the unknown payphone" example goes, I agree
- that someone who took the stance of "I won't answer any calls from
- numbers I don't recognize" would be setting themselves up for
- problems. But, in practice, I seriously doubt that very many current
- Caller ID subscribers use the service in this manner. Should we also
- ban the policy that many families have of not answering the phone
- during the dinner hour? After all, an important call might be missed.
- At least with Caller ID, *some* of the important calls may be answered
- during private times, as opposed to none.
-
- On the other hand, actual reports from Caller ID subscribers reveal
- that although not perfect, it has been useful to a great many people.
- And if someone gets it only to find that they don't find it useful
- since it identifies the calling number, and not the identity of the
- caller, they can always cancel the service.
-
- Again, to the Socially Responsible among us, if you don't find a
- Caller ID box useful, "Then Don't Get One!"
-
- > In PUC hearings held last year, Johnson accused the phone companies of
- > designing a service that is more useful for businesses in gathering
- > marketing data than for consumers in screening calls. Phone companies
- > are opposed to per-line blocking because it would presumably result in
- > more numbers being kept private, thereby reducing the value of the
- > CNID service to business subscribers.
-
- Here we go again with the "business subcribers" argument again. One
- of the big sticking points of the CPUC decision is not the
- availabilitiy of per-line blocking, but that this would be the default
- for subscribers with unlisted numbers. Do people with unlisted
- numbers purchase some sort of right to make anonymous calls to other
- residential subscribers (who are the vast majority of Caller ID
- subscribers)? I think not.
-
- And as far as business "junk mail" list generation goes, where is a
- business going to get the addresses that go with the phone numbers?
- People with unlisted numbers will already be screened from this type
- of assault on their mailboxes, as the so-called "reverse directory"
- services are based on White Pages listings, which the unlisted
- subscibers are not in in the first place.
-
- > "Phone companies don't want you to block your phone number when you
- > call movie theaters or appliance stores. The more times your number
- > is revealed to businesses, the better! So they oppose reasonable
- > blocking options and are pushing an error-prone one," he said.
-
- Once again, the "business" misrepresentation. Is the CPSR's position
- against Caller ID so weak that they must base their argument on
- presumptions that are not true?
-
- > If only per-call blocking were available, residential phone customers
- > -- or their children, parents, grandparents, guests -- would often
- > forget to dial their blocking code before making a call, resulting in
- > frequent disclosure of private information to businesses without the
- > consent, and sometimes even without the knowledge, of the caller.
-
- Then why not allow per-line blocking, but with the default for the
- blocking off? This way, the privacy phreaks can have their way by
- having blocking enabled on their lines for all calls, and the people
- who prefer to enhance THEIR privacy by subscribing to Caller ID can
- have what they want as well. I don't understand why it is to be
- assumed that someone who has an unlisted number, so that people can't
- find their number based on their name, somehow will automatically want
- all of their calls to be anonymous. Is there really that great a need
- to make anonymous calls?
-
- By the way, it is interesting to note that in states where per-line
- blocking is free for the asking, the number of people who request it
- (having to pay nothing to do so) is dwarfed by the number of people
- who pay $60+ for a Caller ID box, plus the $5 or so per month for the
- service. Does this not tell you where public opinion is on this
- issue?
-
- > "Subscriber privacy is more important that Pacific Bell's profits."
-
- Subscriber privacy is also more important than Socially Responsible
- politics.
-
- The CPSR seems to have learned a lot from the RBOCs. The misinformation,
- disinformation, and twisted facts and arguments in the above press
- release are on the same level as the RBOCs PR to get into the
- information publishing industry.
-
-
- Steve Forrette, stevef@wrq.com, I do not speak for my employer.
-
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