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- From: diessel@informatik.unibw-muenchen.de (Thomas Diessel)
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- Subject: Re: Phones in Germany
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- Date: 13 Aug 92 02:48:27 GMT
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- Christopher Lott AGSE <lott@informatik.uni-kl.de> writes:
-
- > We recently moved to Germany and I thought US readers might be
- > interested in an American's perspective of starting phone service in
-
- I would like to make some comments on Chris' interesting summary.
- >Germany. "Telekom" runs the phones. Telekom was fairly recently
- >separated from the Post office but it's still a gummint agency.
- The German mail (Deutsche Bundespost) was divided into three parts:
-
- - Postdienst (mail)
- - Postbank (savings)
- - Telekom (telco)
-
- > All costs are in D-Mark; conversions are based on the exchange rate of
- > US$ 1 = DM 1.50 to make the math easy (actual rate 1.477 or so).
- > Installation cost 65(US 43) and it doesn't matter if they run wire or
- > not. They require no deposit in advance.
-
- > We placed the order in person at the phone store, and three weeks
-
- You mean "Telekom Laden", a shop of the Telekom.
-
- > later a fella arrived with our phone. This was apparently fairly
- > quick. Seems that Telekom doesn't send their own people out to do
- > installations but subcontracts it out. The weak (slow) link in the
- > chain appears to be the subcontractors; I'm told that Telekom is quick
- > with service changes.
-
- > You are allowed to own your own phone, although it's supposed to be a
- > model that's approved by Telekom. Phones cost a minimum of 80 (US 53)
-
- Phones are now approved by a federal office called "Bundesamt fuer
- Zulassungen im Telekommunikationswesen" or so (BZT). But that will change
- again with the common market next year.
-
- > in cheap stores, a minimum of about 100 (US 67) at the phone store. We
- > chose to rent ours from Telekom for about 3.50 (US 2.33) per month.
- > Our phone does touch-tone and stores the last number dialed; i.e.,
- > it's the basic 100-Mark model.
-
- > Judging from our first bill, monthly service is about 52 (US 35).
-
- There is a basic fee of 24,60 DM ($ 16,40) plus 0,23 DM ($ 0,15) for each
- message unit.
-
- > They make no distinction between touch-tone and pulse dialing, as far
- > as I know. Our phone had to be told to send tone, and the switch
- > understands it fine, but I don't think that I requested it specially.
-
- > The monthly service includes 15 message units. Additional message
- > units cost about DM0.23 (US 0.15). Now a brief digression to explain
- > message units as understood by Telekom: Every call is metered. Local
- > calls cost one message unit for every six minutes during the day
- > (6a-6p) and 12 minutes at night. Long-distance works by varying the
-
- Only Monday to Friday 6a-6p 6 minutes otherwise 12 minutes. There are
- also some "long-distance" calls (dialing 0 first = LD) at that rate.
- At least to the neighnour NPAs. But we don't have intra-NPA long
- distance calls (that was a strange experience for me in the States).
-
- > length of time you get for one unit. Domestic long distance is also
- > discounted 50% at night, but international calls cost the same 24
- > hours per day. Ferinstance, when I call other cities during the day,
- > a unit gets me about 30 seconds to one minute, and I assume double
- > that at night. When calling the USA, a message unit lasts 6.67
- > seconds; this works out to almost exactly DM 2 (US 1.30) per minute at
- > all times. As was posted here previously, Telekom recently increased
- > the time from 4 to 6.67 sec, possibly in response to heavy competition
- > from USA Direct etc.
-
- > Information costs the same as a local call (i.e., no extra charge
- > beyond the time) and will give you a number anywhere in Germany. Oh,
- > I almost forgot! There doesn't seem to be an operator here! I had
-
- Basically right, but there is long distance operator at 010 (I never
- used it).
-
- > That's about all I can think of. Hope this interests some people.
-
- At least me!
-
-
- Thomas Diessel
- Federal Armed Forces University, Munich - Computer Science Department
- Werner-Heisenberg-Weg 39 - W-8014 Neubiberg Germany
-