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- From: Paul Smee <P.Smee@bristol.ac.uk>
- Subject: Re: Blocking protocols
- In-Reply-To: <9208070820.AA19630@wolf.cisco.com>; from "David S.A. Stine" at Aug 7, 92 1:20 am
- Message-ID: <11162.9208101104@bristol.ac.uk>
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- Date: 10 Aug 92 12:04:41 BST
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- > On 6 Aug 92 14:54:17 GMT, smee@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Smee) said:
- >
- > > I'm aware that we could block it through all interfaces of the AGS+ by
- > > using 'Administrative Filtering by Protocol Type', but somewhere in the
- > > manual is a line suggesting that there is a performance hit on this,
- > > 'proportional to the number of entries in the type code access list'.
- > > Cisco don't say what the constant of proportionality is, though. If an
- > > entry cost, say .001% of throughput, who cares? If it costs 50% per
- > > entry, ouch.
- >
- > I haven't the performance data sitting at hand at the moment. I'm
- > sure however we're not costing you 50% per entry.
-
- Would be handy if you could provide some sort of rough numbers just for
- guidance. I have had one piece of mail from another using site, where
- they claim a 20% performance degradation for a 35-entry list. (Don't
- know how that compares with official figures, since I haven't seen any,
- but it does make me feel better insofar as it makes me believe that
- I've now got some sort of clue. :-)
-
- Thanks for your response.
-
- > > It looks, though, like it might be possible to win by telling the AGS+
- > > to route Appletalk, and then setting 'no appletalk address' on all the
- > > interfaces.
- >
- > This will work, as long as you aren't doing encapsulation bridging. If
- > you are encapsulating, (ie, over FDDI or HDLC serial lines) this
- > configuration will not work. And when it doesn't work, you will see very
- > rude (albeit entertaining) things happen to your network. Overall, I
- > would say that it is safer to set up the input type & input lsap filters
- > rather than depending on not doing encapsulation bridging at some later
- > time.
-
- Just a mention in passing, in case it influences the thinking of your
- developers -- I also had a bit of mail from someone who is using this
- technique for isolating Novell IPX. Also, a personal comment which may
- be obvious (but I'll make it anyway), it would be nice if your
- developers could keep in mind that it is very handy if encapsulation
- interfaces (FDDI, HDLC, whatever next year's flavor is, ...) could be
- made to work as much like the straight-ether ones as possible, as far
- as routing access controls go. (They may already do this. I certainly
- don't have a wide-enough range of low-level protocol knowledge to know,
- so don't take this as a criticism, just as an observation.)
-
- Thanks again...
-
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- Paul Smee, Computing Service, University of Bristol, Bristol BS8 1UD, UK
- P.Smee@bristol.ac.uk - ..!uunet!uknet!bsmail!p.smee - Tel +44 272 303132
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