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- From: Chris Maukonen <chris@aquarius.cc.ucf.edu>
- Subject: Re: Intimacy
- Message-ID: <1992Aug18.143251.8875@cs.ucf.edu>
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- Organization: University of Central Florida
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- Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 14:32:51 GMT
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- In article <1992Aug18.062739.5248@colorado.edu> bear@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU
- (Bear Giles) writes:
- >I may be full of it, but...
- >
- >I have a friend who has never been intimate. She can point to a
- >'caring' family, a string of boyfriends (and one husband), etc., yet
- >even though she has told me several things she's "never told another
- >person," she clearly has a _lot_ of earthen ramparts remaining.
- >
-
- Physically or emotionally or both ? (Not this is not a strange question)
- One can have been married not had physical intimacy.
-
- >For my own reason, I've offered emotional intimacy for several
- >years. (I have my own limitations, but my limitations are because
- >_I_ don't know what I'm feeling, not that I am holding something
- >back). But I'm reevaluating my needs, and therein lies the problem.
-
- I do not see this as a problem. You are changing and there fore growing.
- Are you not ?
-
- >
- >Several years ago she accepted my intimacy in a unspoken bargain:
- >I could have emotional intimacy, but not sexual intimacy. (A reverse
- >of the normal situation, it would seem...) [I meant that in the
- >male/female role-model sense, but rereading it I'm struck by an
- >alternate interpretation!] Since she lived 1500 miles away this
- >wasn't an issue.
- >
- >But now I'm a lot further in integrating my sexuality, (a tip of
- >the hat to that molester, once again), and noticed she was 'desexualizing'
- >me. I drew a boundary, stuck to it...
- >
- >.... and she went into panic mode. I've read enough psychology texts
- >to recognize that she is in a come-here/go-away loop. She's terrified
- >of further intimacy, but equally terrified of losing what she has.
-
- Thjis is not surprising. She feels a need for love and intimacy but is
- very afraid of it. Probably because she gave it once (or more times)
- and was betrade. Now she is very fearful of giving it again.
- The betrale need only be emotional to cause this.
-
-
- >
- >The question is: what now? The situation as it stands doesn't cut it.
- >I'm not just being a swine :-), I recognize that putting resources into
- >this relationship is probably keeping me from getting a local (and
- >likely deeper) relationship. In guy talk: time to fish or cut bait.
-
- I think it is also time for you to ask yourself what you are getting out
- of this relationship. Is it filling an emotionall need you have.
- In short ask yourself "Do I REALLY care for this person ?".
-
- .....Stuff deleted.............
- >
- >I can't articulate why, but I get the sense she is offering the
- >'form' of greater intimacy (as she sees it) without offering the
- >'meat' of it. Obviously I should reject the form only, but how?
-
- You should ask yourself "Why am I envolved with this person ? Is it
- healthy ? For Me ? For her ?
-
- >
- >Most important, does any of this make sense? 1/2 :-)
-
- Yes it does.
-
- >
- >
- >Bear Giles
- >bear@fsl.noaa.gov
- >
-
-
- Chris
-
-