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- From: kadie@cs.uiuc.edu (Carl M. Kadie)
- Newsgroups: alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk
- Subject: [news.admin.policy] Follow-up: illegal material in newsgroups
- Message-ID: <9208141537.AA00428@herodotus.cs.uiuc.edu>
- Date: 14 Aug 92 05:37:16 GMT
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- From: jbotz@mtholyoke.edu (Jurgen Botz)
- Subject: Follow-up: illegal material in newsgroups
- Message-ID: <BszA6L.2E9@mtholyoke.edu>
- Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 14:42:20 GMT
-
- Less than 24 hours after posting my initial article raising this issue,
- there are about 30 follow-ups in news.admin.policy and I have received
- again as many replies via e-mail.
-
- Many excellent points have been raised. A surprisingly small percentage
- of the total traffic was pure "you're a fascist censor" noise.
-
- To summarize, after reading other people's views on the issue, I have
- decided that for the time being I will continue my current policy of
- carrying everything, and if I am challenged on it by my superiors, will
- strongly recommend AGAINST restricting the flow of News through our
- system in any way.
-
- The main reasons for my decission are...
-
- o A considerable quantity of copyrighted material is posted to groups
- other than a.b.p.e.*, so monitoring groups to determine which groups
- carry illegal material, and which don't, appears impractical.
-
- o It seems likely that the legal responsibility for distributing
- copyrighted material rests with the poster.
-
- o There seems to be a good chance that a "common-carrier" type argument
- can be applied, and by making policy decissions on what to carry and
- what not to carry I'm more likely to hurt than help this argument.
-
- o If (when) this issue does result in law-suits, it is unlikely to be
- here at my small institution, and more likely will involve an organization
- such as UUNET which is already prepared for this eventuality and has
- formalized it's policy on the issue.
-
- Those are my personal reasons for my decission, but the issue remains.
-
- I think we will do well to discuss further what the impact on the
- Altnet and USENET will be when this issue does get exposed to public
- scrutiny. Maybe one should start a directed campaign to discourage
- the posting of copyrighted materials? (After all, there does appear
- to be a fair amount of "amateur" pornography posted to a.b.p.e which
- can continue). Not that I would expect such a campaign to have much
- immediate impact, but again, I think it might in the best interest of
- the Altnet to demonstrate that the majority of it's readership does
- not condone it's use for the distribution of illegal materials.
-
- I would like to repeat once again that I'm very much against censorship,
- and that my primary reason for bring this issue up in the first place
- is because I fear that the illegality of the materials under discussion
- will serve as wellcome ammunition for those who would advocate broad
- censorship of everything they do not like. In fact, I'm sure it has
- already happened at several sites that the entire Altnet was discontinued
- because someone successfully argued that it was being used to distribute
- illegal materials.
- --
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