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- From: kadie@cs.uiuc.edu (Carl M. Kadie)
- Subject: [rec.arts.fine, et al.] Re: U. of Illinois may remove non"pleasant" art from vistor's center
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- Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:18:41 GMT
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- Newsgroups: rec.arts.fine,alt.censorship
- From: greeny@top.cis.syr.edu (J. S. Greenfield)
- Subject: Re: U. of Illinois may remove non"pleasant" art from vistor's center
- Message-ID: <1992Aug13.091526.7822@newstand.syr.edu>
- Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 09:15:26 EDT
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- In article <BsvpxF.AIH@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tmkk@uiuc.edu (Khan) writes:
- >
- >Perhaps one of you folks debating this topic can answer the following
- >question for me:
- >
- >Why is it legal for a University to bad X-rated GIF files from its
- >anonymous ftp sites, ban the importation of groups such as
- >alt.sex.pictures onto camous machines, but NOT legal for them to take a
- >couple of X-rated paintings off of the wall of a campus building?
-
- Who said the paintings were "X-rated?" According to the posted articles,
- university officials specifically stated that they wouldn't go so far as
- to describe the paintings as "pornographic"--they were just objectionable.
-
- Furthermore, what makes you assume that it *is* legal for a (public)
- university to ban x-rated GIF files, any more so than any other large-space
- consuming non-academic related material.
-
- Arguments can be (and have been) made suggesting that (public) schools can
- legitimately limit such use of their computer facilities--but I have never
- seen a legitimate argument that was based on the "x-rated" content of the
- material. Rather, the arguments are based on lack of resources to support
- such (memory-) expensive, non-academically-oriented material.
-
- If a public school attempted to limit access to "x-rated" gifs, solely because
- of the content of the material (so long as it was not "obscene") then that
- attempt would very likely *not* be legal.
-
- To my knowledge, no such case has ever been litigated, however.
-
-
- In any case, the issues involved in archiving gif files can hardly be
- considered at all related to the case at hand. The university has displayed
- the paintings already, and has made no argument that "lack of resources"
- require the removal of the paintings. The University wishes to remove the
- paintings *solely* on the basis of their content.
-
-
- Can you just imagine the University--"We need to remove these two paintings to
- make room for other, academically-related paintings..."
-
- "Hey! What are those academically-oriented paintings? Paintings of the
- alphabet?"
-
-
- --
- J. S. Greenfield greeny@top.cis.syr.edu
- (I like to put 'greeny' here,
- but my d*mn system wants a
- *real* name!) "What's the difference between an orange?"
-