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- From: kadie@cs.uiuc.edu (Carl M. Kadie)
- Subject: [news.admin.policy] Re: Groups used to distribute illegal material
- Message-ID: <9208132203.AA03126@herodotus.cs.uiuc.edu>
- Originator: daemon@eff.org
- Sender: kadie@cs.uiuc.edu
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- Organization: EFF mail-news gateway
- Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 12:03:37 GMT
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- Newsgroups: news.admin.policy
- From: viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson)
- Subject: Re: Groups used to distribute illegal material
- Message-ID: <viking.713740471@vincent1.iastate.edu>
- Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 21:14:31 GMT
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- In <1992Aug13.191334.19680@ntmtv> harthc@ntmtv.UUCP (Howard Hart) writes:
-
- >Here's a simple if slightly fascist fix. Disable access to questionable
- >newsgroups and permit access by user machine only. Insist on low-key,
- >word of mouth subscription only (i.e. - they have to come to you as
- >the news admin to get access to "fringe" newsgroups). Make it clear,
- >access exists only so long as nobody raises a major stink and you'll
- >be amazed how cooperative these users will be. It's not a great
- >solution, but gets you out of the business of playing morals judge
- >and jury and avoids the issue of having to justify anything to those
- >with different ideas on wha't proper (and what's not).
-
- Unfortunately, it doesn't work worth a damn. Here at ISU,
- we have a large network of Unix machines, VAXen, and one old
- clunker known as Wylbur. Since all are multi-user machines, we
- pressed for any restrictions to be on a per-user basis, but this was
- not allowed. Now, you have to sign up for a full newsfeed for each
- machine you are responsible for. This means the public-access machines
- are not allowed a full feed. Wylbur is the only machine that can
- work on a per-username basis, and coincidentially it has the most
- primitive newsreader available.
-
- In short, I can't read from my terminal at home, my terminal
- at work, or any of the public labs unless I telnet to wylbur and
- read it there. This doesn't stop a darn thing (I can ftp pics to
- the workstation and display them there if I wish) -- all it does is
- make it inconvenient.
-
- One thing that came to mind was to write a script on Wylbur
- that mailed each and every message from the banned groups to my
- unix account with the header and message number in the subject line.
- I could then write a script on my unix account to organize the
- messages and display them in order by subject. I think this would
- waste more bandwidth than just opening things back up, but I don't
- want to get anybody angry while we are making progress in removing
- these silly restrictions.
-
- There are ways around everything, and your policy is so
- easy to circumvent it is merely a laughable attempt that only
- inconveniences readers.
-
- <Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 |"There'll be angels on Ariels in leather>
- <z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu | and chrome, Ridin' down from heaven >
- <viking@iastate.edu | just to carry me home." -- R. Thompson >
- < ISU thinks I need more education, which they provide for a fee. >
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