home *** CD-ROM | disk | FTP | other *** search
- Path: sparky!uunet!pipex!ibmpcug!robobar!stl!bnr.co.uk!stc!nnsgs52!ianking
- From: ianking@nnsgs52 (Ian King)
- Newsgroups: uk.transport
- Subject: Re: Stopping/Speed > 70mph
- Date: 20 Jan 1993 09:50:59 GMT
- Organization: Northern Telecom Europe Ltd
- Lines: 68
- Distribution: uk
- Message-ID: <1jj7a3INNi2t@bnsgd245.bnr.co.uk>
- References: <1993Jan18.161319.13563@praxis.co.uk>
- Reply-To: ianking@lon40.nt.com
- NNTP-Posting-Host: nnsgs52.lon40.nt.com
- X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
-
- Martin Croxford (martin@praxis.co.uk) wrote:
-
- : Ian King (ianking@nnsgs52) wrote:
-
- : > The faster you go the less chance you have in stopping.
- : > You might have ABS/4-wheel drive but what about the chap behind/in front?
- : > or the chap behind/in front of him?
-
- : If you drive so that you can stop in the distance you can see to be
- : clear the problem becomes one of judging the stopping distance. Even
- : experienced drivers can get this wrong; I think a lot of people get used
- : to everybody stopping at the same time which is fine unless the car in
- : front stops instantly (in a pile-up). When first showed the two-second
- : rule I was astounded at how long the stopping distance at 70mph was. And
- : it only "works" in ideal conditions up to 70mph.
-
- : The "chap behind" is a problem. It is possible to pull over and let them
- : pass, but even driving at 60mph there will be somebody too close. An
- : extreme solution would be to leave an enormous gap in front which would
- : allow you to decelerate less and allow the "chap behind" to wake up.
- : Apart from that the solution is education.
-
- When this happens (often on the M1/M25), since the wally behind doesnt
- appreciate that he/she is too close, I try to drive for both of us ie give
- enough gap in front so hopefully I can slow us both down in time.. Having
- increased the gap I sometimes touch the brake pedal just enough to put the
- lights on & hopefully wake the other driver up. Even if that doesnt work,
- at the earliest opportunity I will get out of the way. Its called
- self-preservation.
-
- :
- : > In any case why drive faster than
- : > 70mph? It *doesnt* get you there much quicker unless your journey is
- : > longer than say 1.5hours. You can get your calculator out but any calcs
- : > you do cannot allow for weather conditions or the odd shunt or breakdown.
-
- : Depending on conditions, I generally find driving in the third lane at
- : 80mph less stressful than driving at 70mph in the second lane. For
- : example, rather than follow a coach at 70mph for two hours I'd rather
- : accelerate past it and slow down to 75mph. Better visibility, less
- : fatigue. For long journeys an extra 10mph can save a lot, especially when
- : trying to get past (say) Birmingham before the rush hour starts.
-
- Interesting... I find driving at 70mph *less* stressful than driving at
- 80mph whichever lane I'm in. When the Rover had its 2nd speedo 70mph was
- really 80mph. The third speedo (some 106,000 miles ago) fixed that.
-
- As far as I'm concerned increasing speed above the limit to overtake a
- coach and then returning to the limit is perfectly acceptable (to the police
- too). You are only going above the limit during a manoeuvre. You are not
- constantly driving above the limit.
-
- The extra 10mph in theory might save time. But then you could argue that
- an extra 20mph or 30mph would save you even more time. The answer is to
- drive at 70mph and leave *earlier*. In any case you never know what is
- going to happen on that motorway in advance... a small shunt on the M1 or
- even a broken down vehicle can bring the whole lot to a complete standstill
- and completely jam up all surrounding roads.
-
- Regards...
- .........Ian
-
-
- --
- ADVANCE MICRO COMPUTERS LTD & Wolverton Rail | EMAIL: ianking@amicro.demon.co.uk
- PO Box 362, Olney, Nr. Milton Keynes, | or ianking@lon40.nt.com
- Bucks, MK46 5ES, ENGLAND, UK. | ^^^^^^^^^^^^ UK not USA
- TEL: +44 (0)234-711615 FAX: +44 (0)234-240976 MOBILE: +44 (0)831-535618
-