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- From: martin@praxis.co.uk (Martin Croxford)
- Newsgroups: uk.transport
- Subject: Speed limits
- Message-ID: <1993Jan22.170111.8420@praxis.co.uk>
- Date: 22 Jan 93 17:01:11 GMT
- Distribution: uk
- Organization: Praxis, Bath, U.K.
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- Richard Peat ssurpeat@uk.ac.rdg writes:
-
- > In article 13273@praxis.co.uk, martin@praxis.co.uk (Martin Croxford) writes:
- > >"You should be nicked" for driving at an inappropriate speed. On
- > >motorways this could be 100mph in most conditions, 70mph in heavy
- > >rain/heavy traffic or 25mph in "normal" conditions. Outside a school
- > >(assuming a 30mph limit) this could be 45mph at 3 in the morning, 35mph
- > >in most other conditions or 20mph at 3.45pm when the kids are going home.
- >
- > So, do you propose having massive limit signs that list all the various
- > different limits under different coditions. Or maybe change all the limit
- > signs for changing displays.
-
- I don't propose "having massive limit signs" (tho "changing display"
- signs are an interesting possibility). I am trying to make the point that the
- speed limit signs are not necessarily an indication of the safest maximum
- speed.
-
- > Anyway, why should the speed be any different at 3 in the morning. There
- > are still people around, and at that time less aware anyway. Just because
- > it's 3 in the morning, does not mean that hitting someone at 45mph will
- > be any less dangerous does it?
-
- On some stretches of 30mph road 45mph is safe at certain times of the
- day/night. If there are people about then 45mph might not be safe. If
- there are no people then 45mph might be reasonable. Depends on
- conditions. How do we know what speed is reasonable in a given set of
- conditions ? Through education and experience. If in doubt, drive at the
- speed limit. But what if the speed limit is too high ?
-
- About three years ago, at around 2 in the morning, I was driving through
- the outskirts of Godalming with some very drunk people in the car (I
- hadn't been drinking - I'd gone to pick up some friends from a party). I
- was stopped by the police in a 30mph zone, having been driving at
- around 40-45mph. I got out of the car and promptly apologised for
- exceeding the limit. The policeman's response was that I hadn't been
- driving with excessive speed; he and his colleague were concerned that
- I was as drunk as my passengers (they had seen us get in the car) -
- having established that I wasn't he apologised for delaying me and that
- was it.
-
- In an ideal driving world drivers would be penalised for driving with
- excess speed for the conditions, rather than just "speeding". Cameras
- will faithfully record evry vehicle that breaks the speed limit - how much
- better if the camera could faithfully record every vehicle that is
- travelling with excessive speed.
-
- Training all drivers to the level that police drivers are trained would do
- more for road safety than rigorous application of the law.
- --
- Martin Croxford
- martin@praxis.co.uk
- These are my opinions
-