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- From: muttiah@thistle.ecn.purdue.edu (Ranjan S Muttiah)
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- Subject: Re: Buddhism - A religion of atheists?
- Message-ID: <1993Jan26.144543.7112@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>
- Date: 26 Jan 93 14:45:43 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan26.013917.2382@nuscc.nus.sg> cmtan@iss.nus.sg (Tan Chade Meng - with Dan) writes:
- >
- >BUDDHISM - A RELIGION OF ATHEISTS?
- >Is there such thing as an "atheist religion"? Surprise! I found the
- >answer to be "yes".
- >To my pleasant surprise, I found one religion which is without any of
- >the ills. One of the amazing things about this religion is that many
- >of its followers, even among its clergy, are atheists! This "atheist"
- >religion is Buddhism.
-
- To my surprise, one of the amazing things about this religion is that
- many of the followers do the same things as all the other religions:
- worship idols, make war. In other words, as soon as it is called a
- religion, it has all the trappings of _a_ religion.
-
- >The First Noble Truth states that sufferings and pain exists, and it
- >exists in every lifeform. The Second Noble Truth explores the source
- >of (psychological) Pain. Such pain, according to Buddhism, is caused
- >by the negative states of one's Mind: Greed, Hatred, Delusions,
- >Ignorant Desires, Jealousy, Anger etc. All these negative states of
- >Mind torments the man and causes his experiences to be full of
- >sufferings. The Third Noble Truth tells of cessation of Pain. Since
- >Pain is caused by the negative states of Mind, the way to cease Pain
- >would be to develop the Mind such that all these negative states would
- >cease and be replaced by positive states of Mind like Peace, Love,
- >Compassion, Kindness, Wisdom etc. The Fourth Noble Truth, also known
- >as the Eightfold Path, is a systematic method of developing positive
- >states of the Mind. It is a complete package of spiritual and mental
- >training.
-
- The Fifth untold Noble falsehood is that your negative states of mind
- might be my positive state of mind i.e., you have a model for the mind
- without even knowing whether it is true. Quite irrational :-). May
- be the mind needs pain to function.
-
- >world where the believe in God is not encouraged. It is also probably
- >the only religion where followers are encouraged to scrutinize its
- >teachings and blind faith is frowned upon. Hence, it was able to avoid
- >the dogmatism, Holy Wars and other evils that plagued all other
- >religions. It is one of very few religions with no conflicts with
- >Science, even though it is much older than Christianity and Islam.
- >Indeed, Buddhism has more *positive* impact on modern psychology, for
- >example, than any religion has on any field of science.
-
- That's because Buddhism never enjoyed a power status. Power corrupts.
-
- >Einstein once said, "If there is any religion that would cope with
- >modern scientific needs it would be Buddhism ..... [Buddhism] has the
- >characteristics of what would be expected in a cosmic religion for the
- >future: it transcends a personal God, avoids dogmas and theology; it
- >covers both the natural and the spiritual, and it is based on a
- >religious sense aspiring from the experience of all things, natural and
- >spiritual, as a meaningful unity."
-
- Sorry but it still assumes a model without knowing it to be true.
-