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- From: rowe@pender.ee.upenn.edu (Mickey Rowe)
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- Subject: Re: THE MIND OF THE BIBLE BELIEVER
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- Date: 22 Jan 93 22:43:10 GMT
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- In article <1jpmv9INN272@dmsoproto.ida.org> rlg@omni
- (Randy garrett) writes:
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- }: }Science cannot prove anything! That's right! All it can do
- }: }is disprove things.
- }
- }Hmm, if you can't prove anything, how can you disprove anything?
-
- You might want to check out your local bookstore or library in the
- philosophy of science section. Find things written by Karl Popper,
- and you'll have your question more than adequately answered...
-
- }: }Evolution is not "just a theory." It is a fact. It has been
- }: }observed, it has been duplicated in the laboratory, and the
- }: }evidence is astoundingly consistent.
- }
- }Your "Evolution is not "just a theory." It is a fact."
- }statement would seem to be in disagreement with your statement:
- }
- }"Science cannot prove anything!"
-
- The most parsimonious explanation for your statements here is that
- you're not using the same definition of "fact" that is being used by
- the person to whom you're responding. I suspect (although my evidence
- at this point is somewhat sketchy) that that person is using the word
- in the same fashion that scientists use it.
-
- }Could you reconcile the two? Also, if we mean by evolution
- }the changing of one species into another, then evolution
- }has certainly NOT been observed, other than, arguable, in the
- }fossil record and certainly not in the laboratory.
-
- According to the standard definition of species (which you used in a
- section I deleted below), speciation has been observed in the wild.
- The organisms in question were plants, however, and the parent and
- daughter species don't look much different. You wouldn't likely be
- terribly impressed, but your statement is nonetheless false.
-
- }Randy G.
-
- Mickey Rowe (rowe@pender.ee.upenn.edu)
-