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- From: andrei@hanauma.stanford.edu (Andrei Popovici)
- Newsgroups: talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.soviet
- Subject: Re: The Grand Duchy of Transdniestria?
- Date: 27 Jan 1993 04:45:57 GMT
- Organization: Stanford University, Department of Geophysics
- Lines: 72
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- References: <1993Jan25.172930.1@cc.helsinki.fi> <1993Jan27.014908.14110@dxcern.cern.ch>
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- In article <1993Jan27.014908.14110@dxcern.cern.ch> gen@vsnhd7.cern.ch (Eugene Chudakov) writes:
- >In article <1993Jan25.172930.1@cc.helsinki.fi> thietaniemi@cc.helsinki.fi
- > (Tapani Hietaniemi) writes:
- >>
- >>Reading the Radio Free Europe reports is interesting indeed!
- >>The detail below got my attention this time:
- >>
- >>-----------------------------------------------------------------
- >>> LEBED URGES TERRITORIAL CHANGES IN MOLDOVA. Lt.-Gen. Aleksandr
- >>> Lebed, commander of Russia's 14th Army in Moldova, warned in
- >>> Pravda of 20 January that hostilities may resume "at any moment"
- >>
- >><deleted>
- >>
- >>> In the same interview, Lebed called for the "Dniester
- >>> republic's" accession to the Russian Federation under a status
- >>> similar to that of Finland within Tsarist Russia. ^^^^^^^^
- >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- >><deleted>
- >>> Vladimir Socor, RFE/RL, Inc.
- >>------------------------------------------------------------------
- >>
- <stuff about Estonia deleted>
-
- > Using the same legal logic Russia may claim the left bank of Dniester back.
- >The right bank (Bessarabia, as it was called at that times) was given
- >by the soviet government to Romania (1920?), but the left one was left in
- >the *SR (or how it was called at that times). Sometimes after 1940 or 1945
- >the internal border was changed in favour to Moldavia.
- > I don't know very much about the history of this region. I read somewhere
- >that Tiraspol (the main city of the "Dniester republic") had been
- >founded by Rumyantsev or Suvorov (the end of VXIII) during wars with
- >the Ottoman empire, but I'm not sure about the source.
- > Also, at least some part of people there have a will to go back to Russia
- >or Ukraine. This will had been instigated not only by conservative generals
- >like Lebed (general Swan, sounds good) but also by the cause of Moldova's
- >newborn politicians to join Romania, which was proclaimed to be
- >historically inevitable. Some unfortunate lower level politics also
- >should to be mentioned, like a popular slogan "Churka-chemodan-vokzal"
- >(something like "You assholes, grab your stuff and fuck away", pardon
- >my French). I've seen this slogan on a photograph in a newspaper,
- >BTW it might have been a provocation, who knows?
- >Then the eagerness of Moldova to use a military force against
- >the separatists (or "freedom fighters"? :-) ) and the subsequent casualties
- >on both sides didn't help quite well to avoid the alienation.
- >
- >The "Estonia-Moldova connection" :-( slightly amused me :-).
- >
- > Evgeni
-
- Historically, the left bank of the Dniester has never been Romanian, and
- I think it should stay Russian/Ukrainian.
- There are however two problems that need to be adressed:
- One is that of the territories that were given to Ukraine in 1945 (or
- sometime after the end of WWII)--the northern and southern ends of Moldova.
- Hoping to regain these territories in exchange for Transdniester is
- one of the reasons for the Moldovans' trying to hang on to the left bank.
- These territories have been part of Moldova and then Romania since Moldova
- was formed (13th century--Romanian after 1859), and a majority of the
- population is ethnic Romanian there.
-
- The second problem is that there need to be some guarantees regarding
- the rights of the Romanian minority in Transdniester, rights that are
- openly violated now.
-
- I think there won't be a mutually acceptable solution in the conflict
- unless these two problems are adressed.
-
- Andrei
-
- been openly dicriminated against since the split from Moldova.
- Hopin
-