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- From: colten@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (marc.colten)
- Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc
- Subject: Re: State's Rights (Was: Re: Destruction of the U.S.)
- Summary: state vs. fed
- Message-ID: <1993Jan27.055033.429@cbfsb.cb.att.com>
- Date: 27 Jan 93 05:50:33 GMT
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- >colten@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (marc.colten) writes:
- >
- >>You wrote:
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- >>>And who will stop the Feds if they pass oppressive laws? Should we
- >>>submit to the UN as some sort of global govt?
- >
- >>I take it that's one of your big worries - you mention it quite
- >>often. You'll notice I haven't advocated it - but you will keep
- >>mentioning as if I had. Let's say, that the Fed passes an
- >
- >No, you keep saying that our rights can only be guananteed by appeal
- >to a 'higher' authority. Should there then be one higher than Washington?
- >If not, why should there be one higher than Illinois?
- >
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- Several reasons - not the least of which is you never know when
- you might need that extra appeal. But to turn your argument around,
- why Illinois, why not your county. And if your county, why not your
- town? Why not anarchy?
-
- >>I'm sorry if I bored you with the travails of non-christians, but
- >>there it is. The State of New York told everyone, Christian or
- >
- >Hardly a travial.
- >
-
- Well, excuse me. Exactly how much discrimination does someone
- have to go through before it bothers you? Forced Christian
- prayer in public schools? Elections scheduled on Jewish holidays?
-
- >>No - it's not even close. Goldwater was taking a rights issue
- >>(whether black children were entitled to the education their
- >>parents were paying for - and that white children were getting)
- >>and recast it as an "education" issue.
- >
- >He refused to force his moral views on other people when he had
- >no legal way (in his opinion) to do so. Depending on the moral
- >viewpoint, that is either "tolerant" or "facist".
- >
-
- How sad for America he didn't feel like sharing his moral vision
- with the rest of us. I'm sure he would have sat out slavery
- as well.
-
- >>>And if proper Federal functions are defined in the Fed Constitution,
- >>>then there is no limit to what it can do?
- >>>
- >
- >>The 50 state constitutions can vary widely - enslaving people in
- >>one state - freeing them in another. They can be rewritten or
- >>amended at the state level, while the Federal constitution is
- >>ratified by the States. It provides uniform protection for people,
- >>no matter what state they live in.
- >
- >The Fed Constitution can enslave everyone and provide uniform
- >oppression also.
- >
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- Yes it can - or uniform liberty above local and secterian bigotry.
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- marc colten
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