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- From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
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- Subject: Re: Privatization
- Message-ID: <1993Jan24.011916.22529@midway.uchicago.edu>
- Date: 24 Jan 93 01:19:16 GMT
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- In article <1jslq0INNb4i@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> an030@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Broward Horne) writes:
- > Here, Ted, follow me on this one:
- >
- > I) Empirical data
- >
- > #1 - Depressions at regular intervals are historical fact
-
- Yep. There've been two or three in my lifetime, maybe a couple of more
- that I'm forgetting. Of course, they're called "recessions" now, but
- then again, "depression" was just an earlier euphemism for the earlier
- term "panic."
-
- > #2 - Past governments have laid claim to having "smoothed out"
- > the busness cycle, much like our current government
- >
- > #3 - Past governments have been wrong
-
- Then again, no government has ever done so for a whole half-century. The
- worst recession since the Great Depression was in Reagan's first term,
- and it was nowhere as bad as the three or four recessions that preceded
- the Great Depression.
-
- > So. Based on empirical data, not only are we DUE for a depression,
- > it's likely that the government is wrong about being able to
- > prevent it.
-
- They've done a fairly good job for quite some time.
-
- > II) Multiculturalism -
- >
- > Let us suppose that any of several cohesive cultures could
- > exist and respond to reality.
- >
- > My Next Theory - the presence of several, competing and
- > conflicting cultural "realities" is A Bad Thing.
- >
- > Now, what do these two theories add up to?
- >
- > A movement towards a re-orientation of reality, based on ONE
- > dominant culture. Personally, I think we're seeing the
- > begginings already, expressed as "Politically Correct" thinking.
-
- I think you're becoming increasingly loony. "PC" is hardly sweeping the
- country, except in the mounds of straw being dashed to pieces by the
- mainstream media.
-
- > It's become painfully obvious to me that large numbers of the
- > American people are disconnected from reality now. Here, some
- > recent poll numbers from my memory -
- >
- > % expecting the deficit to be halved - 65%
- > % expecting national health care - 80%
- > % expecting continued U.S. military intervention - 60%
- >
- > Now, I ask YOU, do these numbers show a people who are grounded
- > in reality?
-
- Sure. Now, if they also expected tax cuts, there might be a problem.
-
- > Does a $4 trillion debt show an understanding of reality?
-
- It's not optimal, but it's also not necessarily fatal.
-
- > Therefore, I would suggest to y'all that there is at least a
- > fairly good chance that you are wrong about the "deficit not
- > mattering". A chance.
-
- No one says the deficit doesn't matter. What we've been arguing is
- for attacking the problems that are causing this particular deficit,
- rather than just have people recite the catchphrase "The deficit is
- bad" without any understanding what *makes* a deficit bad. And not
- all deficits are bad.
-
- You're free to panic over the deficit now, and flee to a hut in Ecuador
- if you like. There are still people in shelters in Montana waiting for
- the inevitable global thermonuclear war, after all.
- --
- ted frank | thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu
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- the university of chicago law school, chicago, illinois 60637
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