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- From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
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- Subject: 'After all, who remembers today the extermination of the Muslims?'
- Message-ID: <9301272203@zuma.UUCP>
- Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 22:03:23 EST
- Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
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- In article <9301271428.AA11951@kocrsw06.delcoelect.com> c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos) writes:
-
- >Do you folks mean to say that high in the mountain Pentadactylos
- >there's huge letters (reminiscnent of H O L L Y W O O D in
- >Los Angeles) that write out these message(s)? How big are these
-
- It is everywhere.
- In the Erzurum Turkish genocide museum.
- In the Van Turkish genocide museum.
- In the libraries.
-
- Source: Walker, Christopher: "Armenia: The Survival of a Nation."
- New York (St. Martin's Press), 1980.
-
- This generally pro-Armenian work contains the following information
- of direct relevance to the Nazi Holocaust:
-
- a) Dro (the butcher), the former Dictator of the Armenian Dictatorship and
- the architect of the Genocide of 2.5 million Turks and Kurds, the most
- respected of Nazi Armenian leaders, established an Armenian Provisional
- Republic in Berlin during World War II;
-
- b) this 'provisional government' fully endorsed and espoused the social
- theories of the Nazis, declared themselves and all Armenians to be members
- of the Aryan 'Super-Race;'
-
- c) they published an Anti-Semitic, racist journal, thereby aligning themselves
- with the Nazis and their efforts to exterminate the Jews; and,
-
- d) they mobilized an Armenian Army of up to 20,000 members which fought side
- by side with the Wehrmacht.
-
- During World War II Armenians were carried away with the German might and
- cringing and fawning over the Nazis. In that zeal, the Armenian publication
- in Germany, Hairenik, carried statements as follows:[1]
-
- "Sometimes it is difficult to eradicate these poisonous elements (the Jews)
- when they have struck deep root like a chronic disease, and when it
- becomes necessary for a people (the Nazis) to eradicate them in an uncommon
- method, these attempts are regarded as revolutionary. During the surgical
- operation, the flow of blood is a natural thing."
-
- Now for a brief view of the Armenian genocide of the Muslims and Jews -
- extracts from a letter dated December 11, 1983, published in the San
- Francisco Chronicle, as an answer to a letter that had been published
- in the same journal under the signature of one B. Amarian.
-
- "...We have first hand information and evidence of Armenian atrocities
- against our people (Jews)...Members of our family witnessed the
- murder of 148 members of our family near Erzurum, Turkey, by Armenian
- neighbors, bent on destroying anything and anybody remotely Jewish
- and/or Muslim. Armenians should look to their own history and see
- the havoc they and their ancestors perpetrated upon their neighbors...
- Armenians were in league with Hitler in the last war, on his premise
- to grant them self government if, in return, the Armenians would
- help exterminate Jews...Armenians were also hearty proponents of
- the anti-Semitic acts in league with the Russian Communists. Mr. Amarian!
- I don't need your bias."
-
- Signed Elihu Ben Levi, Vacaville, California.
-
- [1] James G. Mandalian, 'Dro, Drastamat Kanayan,' in the 'Armenian
- Review,' a Quarterly by the Hairenik Association, Inc., Summer:
- June 1957, Vol. X, No. 2-38.
-
-
- Source: Documents: Volume I (1919).
- "Document No: 42," Archive No: 1-2, Cabin No: 110, Drawer
- No: 1(4), File No: 373, Section No: 1484(1032), Contents No: 9, 9-1.
- (To the Office of Acting Supreme Commander - Acting Assistant
- Section Director Major Ali Sukru)
-
- "It is sufficient to mention just some of the terrible and shameful crimes
- committed only in Erzurum to get an idea about the Armenian atrocities
- in the villages...
-
- I would also like to mention with disgust and abominable sight, a stain
- on humanity, that I encountered at the west of Hasankale while my regiment
- was proceeding into this town. There was a young Turkish women, apparently
- once a very beautiful one, lying dead on one side of the road. A huge
- stick had been inserted into her vagina. We took the corpses and left it
- at a spot that was invisible from the road..."
-
-
- Serdar Argic
-
- 'We closed the roads and mountain passes that
- might serve as ways of escape for the Turks
- and then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
- (Ohanus Appressian)
- 'In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists
- a single Turkish soul.' (Sahak Melkonian)
-
-
-