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- From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
- Newsgroups: talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history,soc.culture.turkish
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- Subject: Re: "Wieneramus the xSoviet Jew" cheated "Arromdian of ASALA/SDPA/ARF"?
- Message-ID: <9301272011@zuma.UUCP>
- Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 20:11:42 EST
- Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
- References: <728081961@amazon.cs.duke.edu>
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- In article <728081961@amazon.cs.duke.edu> wiener@duke.cs.duke.edu (Edward Wiener) writes:
-
- > Were you high on 'mutlu' when you wrote this? Before you bother to
-
- This holy hour of "Arromdiandaybliss" was jarred by the "Wieneramus
- the x-Soviet Jew" at the door. On the Black Sea shores of Turkiye
- people tell the following story: A fumingly furious gorilla of a
- man enters a garden restaurant full of people and asks: 'Which of
- you here is "wieneramus"?' A puny little man says that he is
- "wieneramus the x-Soviet Jew. The big man grabs him, beats him
- to a pulp, kicks him, slaps him, throws him to the ground and
- leaves the restaurant. While everyone watches this terrible event,
- the little man slowly and painfully manages to sit up on the floor.
- He difficultly shows some sort of a smile on his bloody face and
- says: 'Ha! ha! I cheated him, I am not "wieneramus", I got him!'
-
- I was reminded of this story whenever I read your drivel. Anyway,
- It can be observed that the Russian army officers who had invaded
- eastern Anatolia and who had provoked, encouraged and armed the
- Armenians were disgusted, embarrased and shocked by the genocide
- of the innocent and defenseless Muslims since the men were fighting
- at the fronts. The historical documents mirror the facts.
-
- Source: Documents: Volume I (1919).
- "Document No: 78," Archive No: 1/2, Cabin No: 15-110, Drawer
- No: 11-4, File No: 401, Section No: 1578, Contents No: 2.
- (To His Excellency General Nazarbekov, Commander of Armenian
- Army Corps at Kinakiri - Chairman of Ottoman Negotiation
- Commission and Commander of Army Corps, Kazim Karabekir)
-
- "It has been learnt from the statements of reliable people escaping
- from the Erivan region that, Moslem population living under the
- jurisdiction of the Government of the Armenian Republic, are not
- yet free, and that many are still being massacred by Armenian gangs,
- and their properties plundered."
-
-
- "Document No: 47," Archive No: 4/3671, Cabin No: 162, Drawer
- No: 2, File No: 2905, Section No: 433, Contents No: 6-33, 6-34.
- (To General Perjovalski, Commander-in-Chief of Russian Caucasian
- Armies - Commander, Caucasian Front Ottoman Armies, General
- Vehip Mehmet)
-
- "Honorable General,
-
- I am sorry to have the obligation of informing you with deep regret
- how terrible and painful are the uninterrupted cruelties and abuses
- by Armenians on the Moslem population of the Ottoman land under
- Russian occupation, as is apparent once again with incidents
- recently reported.
-
- 1. Son of Karamehmet and his four brothers from Zazalar village
- now residing in Erzincan were cruelly hacked to death by Armenians
- at the opium poppy mill.
-
- 2. Kurt Mehmet Aga in Demirciler of Erzincan was murdered while a
- Moslem women was kidnapped by Armenians.
-
- 3. Former Municipal clerk of Erzincan Mehmet Efendi was kidnapped
- by Armenians while his mother, his wife and his four year old child
- were brutally murdered and their bodies dismembered.
-
- 4. Armenians attempted to abduct wife of Veysi, son of Gulbahar from
- Arus, and Veysi was murdered as he resisted.
-
- 5. Armenians murdered Dursun, son of Saso Huseyin from Mezraa village
- at his home.
-
- 6. Ismail, son of Mehmet from Pacenc was murdered by Armenians.
-
- 7. On 12 January, Armenians raided Kelaras village, shooting dead
- seven Moslems after tying their hands.
-
- 8. On 7 January, a group of Armenians in Russian uniforms kidnapped
- some 50 men and women from the Ful district on the Black Sea coast,
- took them in the direction of Trabzon. The corpse of Huseyin Cavus
- from Sahmelek village, four kms southwest of Sarli Pazari, who was
- among those kidnapped, was later found in the Ful river.
-
- 9. Two Moslem from Kizilagac, seven kms south of Sarli Pazari were
- found dead, apparently stabbed by bayonets, hands and legs tied.
-
- 10. An officer of Greek origin from Kar, provoked a few Armenian
- and Greek enlisted men, climbing on the minaret of Ful mosque,
- firing arms from the minaret, killing four Moslems who happened
- to be in the vicinity.
-
- 11. Vasil and Kosti from Cemberogullari, from the village of
- Erikli of Yurul, now settled in Gorele in cooperation with Greek
- and Armenian soldiers, begun a massacre against the Moslem
- inhabitants of the villages in the area, and unfortunately,
- Russian soldiers took part in a number of actions, during which
- women were subjected to inhuman and immoral attacks and humiliations.
-
- 12. For a month, Armenian gangs in Russian military uniforms have
- massacred the Moslem inhabitants of Nefsi Sarli, Akkilise and
- Inesil villages west of Sarli Pazari, plundering their properties
- and raping them.
-
- 13. On 5 January, Armenian gangs raided Islam village Aralikos
- between Filteroglu and Gokeli east of Gorele and the Kirikli
- village seven and half kms east of Cavuslu, plundering the village.
-
- 14. An Armenian gang of 50 men raided Ardase district centre,
- plundering properties and burning the market street.
-
- The above incidents are based on concrete evidence and documents,
- and I would like to point out that I have omitted incidents without
- clear proof and it is also possible that there are many incidents
- of which no information has yet reached us.
-
- I wholeheartedly hope that measures and immediate action will be
- taken and that these measures will be urgently implemented. Please
- accept my deepest respects."
-
- Serdar Argic
-
- 'We closed the roads and mountain passes that
- might serve as ways of escape for the Turks
- and then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
- (Ohanus Appressian)
- 'In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists
- a single Turkish soul.' (Sahak Melkonian)
-
-