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- From: niepornt@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Marc Nieporent)
- Subject: Re: Israeli Expulsion of 418 Palestinians
- Message-ID: <1993Jan21.012702.18777@Princeton.EDU>
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- References: <1993Jan14.224245.17021@bony1.bony.com> <EGGERTJ.93Jan16005714@moses.atc.ll.mit.edu> <1993Jan19.215611.7807@bony1.bony.com>
- Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 01:27:02 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan19.215611.7807@bony1.bony.com> jake@bony1.bony.com (Jake Livni) writes:
- >In <EGGERTJ.93Jan16005714@moses.atc.ll.mit.edu> eggertj@atc.ll.mit.edu writes:
- >>In article <1993Jan14.224245.17021@bony1.bony.com> jake@bony1.bony.com (Jake Livni) writes:
-
- >>> There are plenty of Arab murderers in Israel who have been tried (in
- >>> accordance with "international law and common morals"), convicted and
- >>> imprisoned. You certainly sound like you're now saying that you
- >>> would've preferred executing the guilty instead of expelling them.
- >>> How revealing!
-
- >>I wasn't aware, and no one has proven, that any of those expelled are
- >>guilty of any crime. But assuming that some were guilty of a capital
- >>offense, then yes. I would rather have murderers and terrorists
- >>executed rather than released to pursue further murder and terror.
- >>How about you? Apparently not.
-
- >Don't be absurd. Israel has been lambasted for expelling these guys.
- >Can you imagine what would happen if Israel started executing people
- >at the rate commonly accepted in the USA or in any of the Arab states?
-
- No. Israel has been lambasted for expelling these guys without a trial.
-
- >Criticism of Israel from the USA and the Arab states for such
- >incredibly lenient punishments is just plain hypocritical.
-
- Israel is being criticized for ignoring basic liberties like due process,
- not for being too lenient.
-
- >>> ...only in your book. You would've preferred that Israel try, convict
- >>> and execute the bastards. Even this would've been more due process
- >>> than is customarily afforded the accused in Arab states. But
- >>> expulsion - my how evil! Those naughty, awful Israelis! When are
- >>> they going to join the civilized world and just execute their
- >>> criminals? Thanks, Jim, but no thanks.
-
- >>I guess you don't understand why deportation of criminals is frowned
- >>on in civilized areas of the world. If the deportees are real
- >>criminals, then the receiving country rarely wants them. If they are
- >>merely political opponents or scapegoats, then the deportation is
- >>reprehensible, and not to be tolerated.
-
- >You are laboring under a cultural mis-understanding. Sure, in Israel
- >these people are criminals, terrorists and murderers. In the Arab
- >states, they are considered heroes. Saddam is one of the latest
- >examples of this mentality.
-
- --
- David M. Nieporent | "We don't need anymore [sic] wretched refuse. It's
- niepornt@phoenix. | time to send the Statue of Liberty somewhere else"
- princeton.edu | -- Jack "Not a bigot" Schmidling, 1/7/93
- Baltimore Orioles 93 |
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