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- From: cmort@NCoast.ORG (Christopher Morton)
- Subject: Re: Bazooka for sale!
- Reply-To: cmort@ncoast.org (Christopher Morton)
- Organization: North Coast Public Access *NIX, Cleveland, OH
- Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 13:21:05 GMT
- Message-ID: <C1Evr7.3Ao@NCoast.ORG>
- Followup-To: talk.politics.guns
- References: <1jvd3iINN8l3@werple.apana.org.au>
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- As quoted from <1jvd3iINN8l3@werple.apana.org.au> by speednut@werple.apana.org.au (Mark Jose):
-
- > > Just what 6,000,000 Jews thought in Europe a generation or so
- > >ago. Of course, none of them have any opinions now. They were all
- > >murdered by what was arguably the most intellectually and
- > >technologically advanced country in the world. How about 2,000,000
- > >Kulaks in Russia, or a million Azerbajanis, or a few million
- > >Cambodians? They are all dead too. They had one thing in common:
- > >They trusted their government. When that trust was found to be
- > >wrongly placed, they had no means to defend themselves. Exit many
- > >millions.
- >
- > While not wishing to be pedantic, I cannot see how these people's
- > trust/faith in their government caused their demise at the hands of an
- > aggressor. In the case of Hitler, if the jews had more personal guns
- > this may have given him a better excuse to kill them.
- >
- It's very simple to see how. They bet that nobody would do to them what was
- done. They bet wrong. DEAD wrong.
-
- As for your Hitler comment, that's nonsensical at best. Are you saying that
- the Jews were better off for having died in misery WITHOUT much of a fight?
- I think logic and history would indicate that FEWER of them would have died
- had they been able to put up a fight to enable more of the rest to survive.
-
- > All those Iraqis sitting like ducks in a shooting gallery in their
- > sand bunkers were all armed but were killed just the same.
- >
- All those Iraqis SURRENDERED in large part. If we'd been like the nazis,
- they wouldn't have gone home again the way they did.
-
- > And this is where Stefan's logic fails - he fails to realise the
- > "climate" in the USA. His situation doesn't dictate the need or want
- > for a gun, so he believes people in the USA should also have no need.
- >
- The danger of tyranny exists EVERYWHERE, at least everywhere there are
- PEOPLE. To that extent, it's a UNIVERSAL problem.
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- Christopher Morton
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