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- From: alexpace@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Alex L. Pace)
- Newsgroups: talk.politics.animals
- Subject: Re: LSU Cat Shooting
- Date: 26 Jan 1993 10:02:51 GMT
- Organization: The University of Texas at Austin
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- In article <C1G9JG.HsA@wpg.com> russ@wpg.com (Russell Lawrence) writes:
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- >It certainly opens a new round of discussion. At the moment, I'm
- >waiting for responses from Congressman Livingston, two reporters
- >from the Times-Picayune, and the local attorney who launched the
- >local protest against the experiments.
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- I may not always agree with you but I admire your commitment to seeking out
- opinions for yourself. I dont know anything about your newspaper but I
- think that you'll find the attorney and congressman will be biased sources
- of information, perhaps you should also read the report to the G.O.A. that
- the all-star team of neurologist wrote.
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- >My "feelings" aren't relevant here. What counts are the facts
- >and reasons, pro and con.
-
- I think that the choice to become a vegan is a choice of "feelings" or
- emotions much more than they can ever be about facts. You arnt just going
- to walk up to someone and show them a list of facts and convert them. I
- think that an emotional call to the "plight of dumb animals" would be a
- much more effective means of conversion.
-
- >Be that as it may, it was Greg Popken
- >and Martin Hulsey who invoked the "necessary" and "justifiable"
- >argument on behalf of animal research. I'd appreciate it if
- >you would challenge them to qualify their use of these terms
- >by explaining whether or not:
- >
- > -- sport hunting is "necessary" and "justifiable", and hence,
- > not cruel.
- >
- > -- mink coats are "necessary" and "justifiable", and hence,
- > not cruel.
-
- I really think you are out of line with this set of questions Russ, Martin
- and Greg asserted that animal research was justifiable because of the human
- lives it improves and even saves. If we consider saving human lives
- important, then the reasearch can be called necessary. To my knowledge
- neither Martin or Greg attempted to justifiy mink coats as necessasary.
- With this in mind it seems that you are merely shooting at the sky trying
- to discredit the opinions of these men.
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- I think that sports hunting is not cruel because the animals are put to use
- and are killed swiftly, same with coats.
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- alex the omnivore
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