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- From: chris@psych.toronto.edu (Chris Hitchcock)
- Subject: Re: What does "Male-dominated society" mean?
- Message-ID: <1993Jan27.155642.14728@psych.toronto.edu>
- Organization: Dept. of Psychology, University of Toronto
- References: <1993Jan23.201246.9736@leland.Stanford.EDU> <1993Jan24.010521.28434@smds.com> <1993Jan26.024228.23288@leland.Stanford.EDU>
- Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 15:56:42 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan26.024228.23288@leland.Stanford.EDU> farthing@leland.Stanford.EDU (ljf) writes:
- >In article <1993Jan24.010521.28434@smds.com> rh@ishmael.UUCP (Richard Harter) writes:
- >>In article <1993Jan23.201246.9736@leland.Stanford.EDU> farthing@leland.Stanford.EDU (ljf) writes:
- >>
- >>There are a lot of missing and hidden premises in that sentence.
- >>What is true is that violence outside of domestic settings is almost
- >>exclusively a male activity and is generally targeted against males.
- >>Within domestic settings violence is more nearly egalitarian. Make
- >>of that what you will.
-
- I am curious about this domestic violence statistic. Is it an American
- statistic (US), or does it include some of the rest of us too? (Michael
- Rivero, could you look it up?).
-
- The reason I ask is because the US is unique in homicide literature
- as the one place in the world where wives are as likely to kill their
- husbands as husbands are to kill their wives. (reference: M. Daly & M.
- Wilson, _Homicide_ early 90 's or late 80's) In all other countries
- which they examined, *including* Canada, the ratio is about 3 to 1
- or more in favour of men killing their wives more often. This statistic
- holds even when you exclude handgun use.
-
- Don't know why that is, and it seems very odd to me. The US is also
- very violent; perhaps that just amounts to most of the people who
- might be violent, and that proportion is balanced between the genders.
-
- Anyway, I'm *not* saying that women never assault men. I know of at
- least one case where this has happened. I'm just saying that this
- largely American forum ought to think about whether their statistics
- represent something general about gender and violence, or whether the
- US is an odd place.
-
- > (...)
- >As far as I know, this discussion has been about domestic violence and
- >who takes the offensive. We haven't really gotten into the discussion
- >of whether the women and men are fighting back abusive mates or just
- >hitting them because they can.
- >
-
- In discussions with Margo Wilson (co-author of Homicide), she said that
- in the Detroit crime reports she was reading that women are particularly
- at risk just after leaving their partner. The homicide scenarios she
- represented as "typical" were: woman leaves, man stalks her down and
- kills her, and woman leaves, man stalks her down, tries something, but
- she kills him. That's anecdotal, and it's about homicide, not domestic
- assault, but seemed relevant to the issue above.
-
- Chris.
-
-
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