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- From: payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne)
- Subject: Re: What feminists believe (was: Re: Male Men Bashers)
- Message-ID: <1993Jan27.200125.29198@netcom.com>
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- References: <1993Jan26.153820.26695@llyene.jpl.nasa.gov> <1993Jan26.192454.3947@hellgate.utah.edu> <1993Jan27.161733.18089@llyene.jpl.nasa.gov>
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- Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:01:25 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan27.161733.18089@llyene.jpl.nasa.gov> julie@eddie.jpl.nasa.gov (Julie Kangas) writes:
-
- [opps, attribute ommitted, sorry]
-
- >GA>I'm pretty sure you are in the minority (among feminists) on this
- >GA>issue. But if I'm wrong and this is a big issue with most feminists,
- >GA>I'd like to know so that I can disassociate myself from the
- >GA>Women's Rights [hah!] Movement".
- >
- >This just once more shows how varied and how impossible it is to
- >label anything or anyone as "feminist." So many people call themselves
- >that (I do not) and carry such widely varied beliefs that it is
- >useless to judge a person on the label "feminist."
-
- What if you judge based upon their words and the ideas they seem to be
- conveying?
-
- > When I've
- >posted about women's rights, I get jumped on by some people screaming
- >about the horrible things "all feminists" believe.
-
- On the flip side, it is impossible to say anything not a glowing
- testimonial to feminism, and not be accused of attacking feminism
- as a whole (which is also claimed to be nonexistant).
-
- > When I say
- >I don't, I'm called a liar and the assumption women's rights ==
- >"feminism" == all one belief structure, is made. But I also get jumped
- >on by people telling me my "feminism" is wrong or flawed. I feel
- >like if I'm to be included in the "feminist bunch" and be counted
- >as a true "feminist" (whatever that is) I have to follow a strict
- >party line (as shown on the net) or be cast out.
-
- The situation is almost exactly parallel on the other side of the fence.
- BTW, what is this "strict party line (as shown on the net)"? I would
- really like to know what it is.
-
- >I feel it's very ironic.
-
- So do I.
-
- >Julie
- >DISCLAIMER: All opinions here belong to my cat and no one else
- >
-
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- Rich
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- payner@netcom.com
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