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- From: karen@asis.unimelb.edu.au (Karen Cook)
- Newsgroups: soc.women
- Subject: Re: Subway gropers
- Date: 26 Jan 1993 02:53:47 GMT
- Organization: University of Melbourne
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- Message-ID: <1k293rINNahl@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU>
- References: <1993Jan21.122002.12023@adx.adelphi.edu> <1993Jan25.015246.26654@adobe.com>
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- kendall@adobe.com (Janice Kendall) writes:
-
- >In article <1993Jan21.122002.12023@adx.adelphi.edu> lingling@abraxas.adelphi.edu (Lisa Nyman) writes:
- >> [ story of subway groper deleted]
- >>she said *loudly* to the woman something to the effect of - Watch out
- >>for the guy behind you, he's probably been feeling your rear like he'd
- >>been doing to mine. So, the question is, what would some of you have done
- >>at the moment you realized there was no gym bag. My sister was stunned
- >>because after 7 years of living in NYC, this was the first time
- >>something like this happened.
-
- >I think what she did in regards to the other woman was fine. If I thought
- >someone was touching me, I guess I'd try to either move, or move some object
- >inbetween us (briefcase or backpack would be nice to have). Maybe saying
- >something loudly wouldn't hurt, either.
-
- I missed the beginning of this thread, so I hope I'm not repeating what's
- already been said by others.
-
- I know what action I would take in that situation. But I live in Melbourne,
- Australia, not New York, and it may be that what is a sensible reaction
- when you are being groped on a Melbourne train is a dangerous reaction in
- New York - perhaps provoking the groper to violence. You have to decide
- what's safe and appropriate for the situation in which you find yourself.
-
- I would draw attention to the groper - loudly, clearly, and without a
- trace of embarrassment. Examples:
-
- If his hand is on your backside, grab his wrist, raise it in the air,
- and yell "Whose is this? I found it on my ass!"
-
- Or "Would everyone mind keeping a close eye on this person for me? I'm
- going to get off at the next station and inform the police that he's
- been groping me!"
-
- If he's masturbating in public: "Look at that man over there! He's playing
- with his willy! If he doesn't stop *immediately* I will be calling the
- police!"
-
- These gropers tend to act furtively, preying on one woman at a time. They
- often get away with it because they rely on the embarrassment that many
- women feel about drawing attention to themselves in public. Here in
- Australia, young schoolgirls are a favourite target; they are almost
- always too scared and ashamed to do anything. We need to teach them not
- to be embarrassed about it; if someone is touching you in a way you don't
- want to be touched, that is assault and you are allowed to protest about it,
- even if it's happening in a public place.
-
- Karen
- --
- Karen Cook (karen@asis.unimelb.edu.au)
- ASIS, University of Melbourne
-