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- From: farthing@leland.Stanford.EDU (ljf)
- Subject: Re: What does "Male-dominated society" mean?
- Message-ID: <1993Jan23.201246.9736@leland.Stanford.EDU>
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- Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
- References: <1j7v04INN3o8@transfer.stratus.com> <1jhohpINNmqg@emx.cc.utexas.edu> <1993Jan20.181338.22062@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com>
- Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 20:12:46 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan20.181338.22062@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> bhv@areaplg2.corp.mot.com (Bronis Vidugiris) writes:
- >There have been reports of people who complain about domestic violence
- >against them by their wives being told to 'handle it like a man' by the
- >authorities, in fact. [Net-post-personal experience sort of stuff.]
-
- Yes, I've read some of these net reports and believe them. I believe
- there is no proscription against violence towards mates (or children).
- The violence towards mates/spouses/s.o.s/lovers (whatever your choice
- of word) cuts across gender and sexual orientation. The ease with
- which the police sent one of Dahmer's victims back to his death
- because they thought it was a gay lovers' spat is the ease with which
- the sheriff ignored my next-door neighbor's beaten wife and the ease
- with which police tell men physically abused by their wives to handle
- it like a man.
-
- >The perscription against medelling in domestic violence is real - but
- >it applies to both genders. IMO. And the statistics I've seen (and
- >quoted many a time) seem to indicate that violence is at least commesurate
- >in both directions, if one uses any sort of survey-based data rather
- >than police reports.
-
- Yes.
-
- And yet we keep seeing posters maintain that there is a
- cultural/societal proscription against violence towards women. How
- does it work, then, that men and women in fairly equal numbers abuse
- their mates, but there is a proscription in favor of women but not in
- favor of men? By this reasoning, it appears that women are much
- better at controlling their violence than men, since men commit
- violence in spite of a proscription and women commit violence in the
- absence of one. This nearly sounds like a moral superiority of women
- that a few feminists suggest.
-
- And, of course, we haven't touched on your stats which (if I remember
- correctly) suggest that women are more severely injured by domestic
- violence and the fact that ~70% of rape victims are women.
-
-