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- From: kelley@naswtx.UUCP (Kelley Smith)
- Newsgroups: soc.women
- Subject: Re: Male Men Bashers
- Message-ID: <Z8eRXB2w165w@naswtx.UUCP>
- Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 21:51:11 PST
- References: <93020.1332133399390@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
- Organization: CONNECT BBS
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- > 1. Awareness of date rape should be raised among college students (my
- > age group).
- > 2. Abortion is morally wrong, and should be illegal except in the case
- > when the life of the woman is in danger... etc etc disclaimer etc
- > etc more disclaimer...rape...incest..etc.
- > 3. If birth control fails, both the man and the woman should be stuck
- > with supporting the child, or else must agree to put the child up
- > for adoption.
- > 4. Educational establishments are still in various ways preventing or
- > discouraging women from reaching their full potential in such areas
- > as engineering, math etc. Female role models would play an important
- > part in overcoming this.
- > 5. Censorship of pornography is OK. (Note: here take pornography to mean
- > sexual material which *I* think is degrading to men or women. If some-
- > one is in doubt as to whether or not something is pornography, they
- > can just ask me! :)
- > 6. Affirmative action is OK.
- > 7. Sexual harrassment of men or women is bad. Men and women have a respon-
- > sibility to learn about what the other gender (or anyone) might
- > consider harassing, and to respect this.
- > 8. Men and women make equally good parents,and equally good employees.
- > 9. Jokes putting women down are sexist. Jokes putting men down are funny.
- > 10. Men and women should be paid the same for doing the same job.
- > 11. Jobs
- > that have traditionally been done by women are underpaid (like nursing).
- > 12. Women should be drafted as well, where a draft exists.
- > 13. There is an epidemic of male violence against women.
- > 14. It would be great to have a female Prime Minister of Canada!
- >
- > However, I actually think that all these follow in some way from two
- > more fundamental premises: Men and Women are equal, and Systematic
- > discrimination against women exists in our society today, and the feminist
- > effort works against this discrimiation.
-
- Most of what you posted was good. Most feminists would agree, though
- that abortion should be kept legal and safe and women should have control
- over their reproduction (I do not want to get into an abortion debate!).
-
- Kelley (My first post also)
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