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- From: Will Steeves <goid@zooid.guild.org>
- Subject: Re: Ecomasculinism and li
- X-To: AARON.L.HOFFMEYER
- Organization: The Zoo of Ids
- Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 03:26:00 GMT
- Message-ID: <1993Jan21.121709.7418@zooid.guild.org>
- Sender: Will Steeves <goid@zooid.guild.org>
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- noraa@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (aaron.l.hoffmeyer) writes...
- >In article <168C4957B.SURGDM@mizzou1.missouri.edu> Diane writes:
- >>In article <1992Dec21.022449.692@zooid.guild.org>
- >>Will Steeves <goid@zooid.guild.org> writes:
- >>
- >>>Well! What's good for the gander is good for the goose, isn't it? :-)
- >>>
- >>Of course! But watch it Will, you're beginning to sound like a feminist!
-
- >I disagree. Will "sounds" to me like an "Equalist." He professes
- >equality and its virtues. He is not against anyone because of their
- >gender. He is not looking for special protection or opportunities
- >because of his gender.
-
- >Some women who assert that they are feminists sound a lot like
- >equalists to me. Some don't. But "feminism" is not the measure for
- >"equalism," and if you believe so, then I think you are mistaken.
- >Feminism is about being pro-women. Nothing wrong with that. But, just
- >as some "masculinists" are anti-women, some feminists are anti-men.
- >And that is problematic.
-
- >No, there is a greater mission than "feminism" or "masculinism." Some
- >want to refer to this greater cause as being pro-human, regardless of
- >gender--"humanism." But that has been around and implies having to read
- >Proust, something I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy (OK, OK, it's a
- >leaf, but I don't need or want a three page description of it--Look,
- >assume that your reader might have seen a frigging leaf before--it's not
- >such a leap, take my word for it). Besides, humanism sounds so, so, so
- >BIOLOGICAL. This is not about biological morals/values/quality. It is
- >about intellectual rights. Equality is an intellectual right. It is
- >the right, most accurate, most precise term. Therefore, I choose
- >"equalism." ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- ^^^^^^^^^^
-
- Thank you, Aaron. It is much appreciated.
-
- (BTW, my original post on "Ecomasculinism" was just meant to be taken as
- making light humour of certain claims that women are in general more
- concerned with the environment than men ; I considered this sort of idea,
- though not the post on Ecofeminism itself, mind you, to be yet another
- declaration of moral superiority, and naturally, I had a bone to pick
- with it... :-) My apologies for picking on a perfectly valid event
- in order to make my point, however).
-
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- "Gravity: It's more than just a fragrance. It's the LAW!"
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-
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