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- From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
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- Subject: Re: Credibility and Trueness
- Message-ID: <ewright.728158167@convex.convex.com>
- Date: 27 Jan 93 18:09:27 GMT
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- In <1993Jan27.004250.17453@sol.UVic.CA> atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (dreas) writes:
-
- >You are either an excellent comedian or don't know the difference
- >between an acquaintance and a relationship.
-
- relationship: a state of affairs existing between those having
- relations or dealings
-
- acquaintance: personal or firsthand knowledge
-
- It seems to me that one could have firsthand knowledge of a person
- but not have dealings with that person. That would be an acquaintance
- without a relationship. If you go to dinner with a person, however,
- then you are having dealings, hence a relationship, with that person.
-
- Now, what was your point again?
-
-
- >Well, I think it's about time you cut him a bit of slack. If the man
- >has a point, he has a point. He has often pointed things out that are
- >irrevocable and blatant to a four year old.
-
- Yes. To a four-year-old.
-
-
- >>Which is sometimes justified and sometimes not. Unfortunately,
- >>some people, such as Charlie Martin, have accepted the idea that
- >>anything which makes them unhappy is somehow their fault. Which
- >>is probably why Charlie, when not reinventing logic and mathematics,
- >>is busy having his head shrunk.
-
- >I find it a wise move to seek help for problems in one's life that
- >are just too big to handle...
-
- Seeking "help" from astrologers, psychiatrists, psychologists,
- psychics, psychic astrologers, trance channelers, crystal healers,
- and similar charlatans only helps you avoid facing the real problem.
-
- Besides, psychology is based on a denial of the existance of
- free will. And without free will, you cannot decide to do
- anything, including "seeking help" from a psychologist,
- you can only be driven to it by mysterious "psychic forces"
- beyond your control. So, when a psychologist tells you
- you should seek his help, he isn't even being internally
- consistent.
-
-
- >>If all you want to achieve is mindless contentedness, drugs
- >>probably are the answer.
-
- >Agreed, but that is not my personal goal, nor do I believe that it is
- >yours. I could be stoned out on heroin or opium at this very minute, but
- >I have learned that illegal drugs are not for me a long time ago. I used
- >to be on tranquilizers, tricyclic antidepressants, lithium carbonate,
- >and all kinds of other prescription goo over the years.
-
- Could be Charlie's breakfast cereal. :-)
-
-
- >>Maybe for you. For me, it takes someone whose apprecation goes
- >>beyond what he or she can "get out" of me. It's one thing for
- >>someone to be pleased that I do something; it's another to be
- >>pleased that *I* do it.
-
- >Can't you just take pleasure in doing and giving of yourself? Folks
- >appreciate it
-
- You're not paying attention. The point, again, since you seem
- to have missed it: It's one thing for folks to appreciate *it*;
- it's another for them to appreciate *me*. The former just isn't
- good enough, as far as I'm concerned.
-