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- From: weaver@jetsun.weitek.COM (Michael Gordon Weaver)
- Subject: Re: Audrey Hepburn (was: *How* did you meet your SO)
- Message-ID: <1993Jan28.014227.1278@jetsun.weitek.COM>
- Organization: WEITEK Corporation, Sunnyvale CA
- References: <1993Jan21.173136.11109@netcom.com> <1993Jan22.185650.27693@jetsun.weitek.COM> <1993Jan27.174105.8427@netcom.com>
- Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 01:42:27 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan27.174105.8427@netcom.com> cocoa@netcom.com writes:
- >I studied "Shall We Dance" in film class in college, but was much less impressed
- >with it than other musicals. Astair and Rogers are portrayed in such a
- >"formula" that it distracts me too much. I've never seen "Roberta". Is it
- >less formulaic?
- >
- Yes.
-
- The Stanford theater is in the middle of a Fred Astair film festival
- (a Audrey Hepburn festival will be next), and I have seen six films so
- far, so I had trouble remembering "Shall We Dance". If I remember, it
- is the one where Fred plays Petrov, the phony Russian ballet dancer
- who dreams of tap dancing with Ginger. I think the only thing that
- really stands out about it compared to some of the other
- films is the music by Gershwin (?).
-
- Yes, most of the films follow a formula. I think they kept trying to do
- the same picture as the first successful one (Gay Divorcee?), with Fred
- as the gentleman in love with Ginger, the girl from the boondocks, who
- plays hard to get. I don't particularly like this formula. Also, they
- tend to keep making Fred and Ginger dancers, that is, trying to write
- the plot to explain why the characters are singing and dancing, which I
- think is a mistake. I prefer a musical be like opera or ballet, where
- the singing and dancing are not supposed to be taken literally.
-
- Roberta has a pretty good plot, at least for a musical. Fred and Ginger
- get top billing, but in the plot they are secondary characters. The
- main plot is a romance between (forgot his name) and Irene Dunne. I
- love the scene where Irene Dunne sings 'Smoke Gets in Your Eyes'. To
- make it really corny, her love interest comes in in the middle of the
- song, mad at her, and she has to tell him to go.
-
- >I thought it was interesting when I heard that Astaire actually danced more
- >times with Rita Hayworth than with Ginger Rogers. Anyone else remember this
- >trivia?
- >
-
- Well, I think that Fred Astaire was not really big until he had a hit
- dancing with Ginger. Before seeing this film festival, I didn't really
- like Ginger (because of the formula), but now I think she is very good
- and it's the formula I don't like. Besides being able to sing and dance,
- she can play different characters, something I am not sure I could say
- about Fred Astaire.
-
- As long as they were a team, I think the producers were unwilling to
- stray very far from the formula. The later Fred Astaire films without
- Ginger have a lot more variation, which is good.
-
- Michael.
-
- The film festival is going more or less in chronilogical order, so I
- am playing a mental game, trying to decide which film is best, which
- dance is best, which song is best, which partner is best, and so on.
-