home *** CD-ROM | disk | FTP | other *** search
- Path: sparky!uunet!gatech!emory!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!ursa!jmd
- From: jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond)
- Newsgroups: soc.singles
- Subject: Re: Honesty, Your word, and Trust -- a crisis?
- Message-ID: <JMD.93Jan25145525@lion.bear.com>
- Date: 25 Jan 93 19:55:25 GMT
- References: <JMD.93Jan22123711@lion.bear.com> <1993Jan22.204616.23077@midway.uchicago.edu>
- Sender: news@bear.com
- Organization: Bear, Stearns & Co. - FAST
- Lines: 46
- In-reply-to: orc@sybase.com's message of 22 Jan 93 20:46:16 GMT
-
-
- In article <1993Jan22.204616.23077@midway.uchicago.edu> orc@sybase.com (Orc) writes:
-
- In article <JMD.93Jan22123711@lion.bear.com> jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond) writes:
- >An example: How many of you out there have said that you would meet
- >someone at a particular place at a particular time, but then been
- >late? If you have, then you have broken your word -- you have been
- >_dishonest_. I don't mean to attach any moral judgement here -- it is
- >not good or bad, but merely a fact.
-
- Right.
-
- Doesn't the word dishonest imply an intent to deceive? If I
- agree to meet someone, but the train I'm on is taken out of service
- and I have to wait for another one, and thus show up late, I don't
- really see that I'm intentionally deceiving someone.
-
- In a word, no. There is no implication of prior intent -- merely
- indication that the statement was false.
-
- There are a lot of unspoken assumptions about arrangements like
- that. When you say you're gonna meet someone, the fine print
- includes such things as "if I'm not delayed, that is" along with
- notification clauses.
-
- If I tell someone that I'm going to be somewhere at a given time, I do
- _not_ mean "if I'm not delayed". I mean that I will do whatever it
- takes to insure that I am there on time. Inevitably, sometimes I will
- _not_ succeed. That's fine -- as long as I _acknowledge_ the fact
- that I broke my word.
-
- This kind of casual relationship with our word is the whole problem!
- If there's fine print, it is your responsibility to mention it. If
- you are coming on the train, it is up to you to tell the person who's
- meeting you that it might be late.
-
-
- Spidey!!!
-
- --
- You don't hunt ducks with a turnip!
-
- /\ \ / /\ Josh Diamond jmd@bear.com
- //\\ .. //\\ AKA Spidey!!! ...!ctr.columbia.edu!ursa!jmd
- //\(( ))/\\
- / < `' > \ Do whatever it takes.
-