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- From: julie@cucbs.chem.columbia.edu (Julie Wright)
- Subject: Re: Flirting How To Guide
- In-Reply-To: sethb@panix.com's message of Thu, 21 Jan 1993 01:31:15 GMT
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- Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:43:37 GMT
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- sethb@panix.com (Seth Breidbart) writes:
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- >In article <JULIE.93Jan19190642@cucbs.chem.columbia.edu> julie@cucbs.chem.columbia.edu (Julie Wright) writes:
-
- [Aahz suggests back rubs, foot rubs, etc]
- >>This sounds like a pretty good suggestion, but it has one disadvantage:
- >>it's not quite balanced or mutual. I don't think I'd feel completely
- >>comfortable starting off a physical relationship this way -- it would
- >>establish that he's a nice person and wants me to feel good, but I'd
- >>feel like I wasn't reciprocating right then, and was somehow sitting
- >>back and taking advantage of his good will.
-
- >Wait a minute. I enjoy giving back rubs. You enjoy receiving them.
- >We're both doing something we enjoy. Who's taking advantage of whom?
-
- I should have realized I'm probably out of synch with normal human beings
- on this one. In fact, I *don't* enjoy back rubs very much. Oh, every
- once in a while they're really nice, but at any given moment I'm not
- very likely to want or enjoy one. Maybe I'm just too fidgety. I'd just
- rather do something a little more physically active than receiving a back
- rub, generally. They make me feel pinned down. OK, so I'm weird.
- Giving them is fine, but I've tried receiving them plenty of times, with
- a variety of techniques, and unless I'm in just the right mood, they're
- just not my thing. So maybe I was letting my personal tastes interfere
- with my opinions of what other people might like. Do whatever works.
-
- >> It seems like the
- >>communication is one-way.
-
- >Which way? When I give backrubs I get a lot of feedback. It's easy
- >to tell by feel alone the difference between "That feels good" and "I
- >like having you touch me".
-
- I suppose you're right. Again, I was probably extrapolating way too much
- from my own reactions. I don't feel like my own reaction to backrubs,
- which depends more on the mood I'm in than how I feel about the person
- I'm with, and is generally neutral to negative, is a very reliable guide
- to my physical reaction to the other person.
-
- >>I agree about the non-aggressive physical contact, but I think it would
- >>be better to do something that allows her to give you more physical
- >>feedback about how she is feeling about you and the situation.
-
- >I get plenty of physical feedback from feeling her muscles relax.
- >(This does take some experience.)
-
- See above. (Though I do want to add that it's nice to be able to see
- someone's face, which is difficult with backrubs.)
-
- ---Julie
- --
- * here you come again/ arms across a broken heart/ you want me to be free/
- * i know what you mean/ but i am waiting for/ somebody to pull through
- * for me/ somebody's gonna have to be me ---- The Roches
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