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- From: rhayden@oracle.com (Ronald Hayden)
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- Subject: Re: Tips for coming out to friends?
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- Date: 27 Jan 93 21:18:57 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan24.065752.2143@macc.wisc.edu> anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
-
- >It really isn't a big deal. Oh sure, it seems like it's a
- >huge thing, but who the fuck cares any more?
-
- Well, the person who's asking for support in this instance
- has told us he's living with two clearly homophobic
- roommates who are already hassling him and he isn't even out
- to them. So I would say he cares, and maybe with good
- reason. I don't think you can in good conscience just advise
- a stranger across the country to throw all caution to the
- winds. Doron has to live with the consequences of his
- actions, and since we can't promise to be there for him when
- the chips are down, I think he may know his local conditions
- best. Fortunately, better support than he's been having is
- available in New Jersey, and I think he's starting to access
- it.
-
- I agree -- Arne is giving VERY bad advice here, by projecting his
- situation on the rest of the world. Before giving advice, you always
- stop and put it in the context of the other person.
-
- A common scenario: Person joins gay-rights march for the first time,
- gets very excited and decides to stop hiding anymore. Runs to a
- payphone and calls mom, "Hi mom, I'm gay!" Mom reacts in disgust and
- bans him from the family.
-
- Person is brought down EXTREMELY hard and goes from elation to
- depression in 0.5 seconds, making future emotional problems quite
- possible. Certainly, because no groundwork was layed, it'll be a long
- time, if ever, before this person can deal with his family in a
- rational manner.
-
- Myself, I've come out in a variety of ways. But my biggest piece of
- advice is: The better the friend, the sooner you should do it. My
- greatest regret is going YEARS without overtly coming out to my best
- friends. They haven't reacted badly to this fact, but I still feel
- very guilty for displaying this level of misplaced distrust. In the
- end, it was really MY problems that kept me from coming out sooner,
- but my friends have no way of knowing that.
-
- Anyway, My Experiences in Coming Out: There will be a Moment. It can
- be planned, or it'll just happen naturally -- it's the Moment when the
- time is right to naturally bring it up. Maybe this friend has just
- mentioned the gays in the military situation, or Colorado, or
- whatever. You have to take the Moment when it arrives. Take a breath
- and say something along the lines of, "This really concerns me because
- it effects *me*..."
-
- After that: I've found it best, if I've brought it out in a very
- explicit manner, to immediately make it clear that I can be asked
- *any* questions and I will, to the best of my ability, answer them.
- And *no* question is silly. If you're lucky, they'll grin sheepishly
- and use this chance to ask whether you wear dresses or something,
- and you can address those issues right away. Don't let them continue
- with their stereotypes.
-
- I can't say what to do if they react badly, because I haven't really
- experienced that.
- --
-
- - Ronald Hayden
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