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- From: jrd@frame.com (James Drew)
- Newsgroups: soc.motss
- Subject: Re: Sexual harassment from queers
- Date: 27 Jan 1993 15:10:44 -0600
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- Kenny Campbell (kc2@doc.ic.ac.uk) writes:
-
- >I also get mightily pissed off by some gay mens' atitude to women
- >generally, and lesbians specifically. Maybe this is just a British or
- >even Scottish thing, but it could well be the case elsewhere.
-
- It's elsewhere. Many, many gay men look at the presence of women in the bars
- they frequent as an intrusion. I know of some bar owners who allegedly
- allow minimal airtime of music by female performers, as that might encourage
- women in the bar; it goes both ways, though, as there are women's bars which
- won't play any music by male performers, lest men come to the bar. I also
- know of a Lesbian newspaper which won't allow male subscribers, as the paper
- is by and for women; they sell it at A Different Light, though, where men can
- purchase it just fine.
-
- Frankly, I look down on any of this exclusiveness. When I dance with someone,
- it is because they can dance, and want to dance; gender doesn't enter into
- it. I'll dance with willing women as readily as with men; orientation is also
- not a factor. (I will, however, more eagerly pursue dancing with men whom I
- find sexually appealing.) The main club I dance at (every Tuesday) has a large
- women's population (as much as 40%, some nights). I strongly doubt that if
- all those women were not present, that they would be replaced by men; even if
- they were, I doubt that many of those men are ones I would want to dance with.
- (If for no other reason, the fact that they stayed away because there were
- *women* in the bar means that there woudl almost certainly be personality
- conflicts.)
-
- I still maintain that the most significant difference between men and women is
- that women can print their names in the snow.
-
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- | I heard gunshots from the kitchen, and raced
- Jim Drew | in to find Sheriff David pointing a now-unloaded
- jrd@frame.com | police revolver at the refrigerator.
- (Furry: Randy Puritan) | "I got it!" he said. "I got the monster!"
- "Innocent, but not naive." | I gingerly opened the refrigerator. A week
- B(2)h t c k g+(p) rv p e | without power had left the insides pretty scary,
- S8/5 g l+ y+ o+ a+ u++- j++ | but I saw no monster. I pulled out a package of
- {opinions: mine != frame's} | shot-up cheese, instead.
- | "I think you got the meunster, Sheriff."
- | - Marc Lynx, "Broken Bokken"
-