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- From: roy@panix.com (Roy Radow)
- Subject: Re: Pedophilia as sexual orientation
- Message-ID: <C1G2LM.9pn@panix.com>
- Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC
- Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 04:46:33 GMT
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- LASAGA@corral.uwyo.edu (LASAGA) writes:
-
- (Mark Wasson) writes this:
- >>There is a discussion on our company's local net concerning pedophilia as
- >>one type of sexual orientation. Although the thread did start with
- >>someone mentioning homosexuals and pedophilia in the same sentence, the
- >>two have now been separated in the discussion.
-
- >Well, I hope they weren't equating the two (although many in the religious
- >right tend to do so, as well as other misinformed people.)
-
- -- This Is A Test --
-
- The Scenario: Mr. Jones, middle-aged, married, two kids. He comes
- home one night pissed, drunk and horny. Mrs. Jones is out spending
- some time alone with her friends. Around midnight Mr. Jones, now
- even more pissed, drunk and horny goes into his son's bedroom;
- beats him, rapes him; and then proceeds to his daughter's bedroom
- where he does the same to her.
-
- -- What are your conclusions? --
-
- A. That Mr. Jones is a HOMOSEXUAL because he had sex with his son.
- Moral: HOMOSEXUALS rape children and should not be allowed to
- have any job having to do with children.
-
- B. That Mr. Jones is a BISEXUAL because he had sex with both his kids.
- Moral: BISEXUALS rape children and should not be allowed to have
- any job having to do with children.
-
- C. That Mr. Jones is a PEDOPHILE because he had sex with his kids.
- Moral: PEDOPHILES rape children and should not be allowed to have
- any job having to do with children.
-
- D. That Mr. Jones is into S & M because he beats his kids before
- raping them. Moral: People who are into S & M rape children
- and should not be allowed to have any job having to do with
- children.
-
- E. That Mr. Jones is someone who has beaten and raped his children.
- Moral: People who beat and rape children and should not be allowed
- to have any job having to do with children.
-
-
- Not that many years ago Anita Bryant held a successful campaign
- to deny gays and lesbians their civil rights. She called her cause
- "Save Our Children". Her argument was, that since homosexuals were
- unable to procreate, the only way to perpetuate their kind was to
- recruit children to become gay or lesbian. Ignorant, bigoted and
- prejudice people believed her, and many good people suffered as a
- result.
-
- Today Anita Bryant's accusations are considered ridiculous, and
- we find it difficult to conceive how anyone could believe such
- nonsense.
-
- But now the bigots have found a new scapegoat. Their argument is:
- if someone sexually abuses a child then they must be a pedophile.
- It's wrong to abuse kids thus it must be wrong to be a pedophile.
- It's also wrong to be a homosexual- homosexuals must be pedophiles.
- Therefore, it's ok to deny gays, pedophiles and other sexual minorities
- employment, housing, and equal protection under the law.
-
- DON'T LET THE BIGOTS CONFUSE OR INTIMIDATE YOU.
-
- THEY ARE APPEALING TO OUR FEARS TO CREATE A HYSTERIA
- TO HIDE THEIR TRUE AGENDA.
-
- It is illegal to sexually abuse children and people who commit illegal
- acts should have to face the consequences of their behavior.
-
- This should not be a justification, however, for denying civil rights
- to others who have committed no such crimes no matter what their sexual
- orientation.
-
- [A journal article on sexual abuse: deleted]
-
- >And, of course, even if many gay people _did_ commit pedophilia, it
- >would not mean that those who do not should be discriminated against
- >(e.g., could not find employment in our schools); we just need a better
- >way to determine whether anyone is a pedophile, gay or straight.
-
-
- LET"S GET THIS STRAIGHT:
-
- Pedophilia is a sexual orientation. Sexual abuse is an illegal assault.
-
- 1) The people described in the journal article committed sexual abuse,
- they did not "commit pedophilia".
-
- 2) People who do not commit illegal acts should not be discriminated against.
- (We are in agreement there.)
-
- 3) We do not need "a better way to determine whether anyone is a pedophile,
- gay or straight". What we do need is less hysteria, so that people will
- not fear or pre-judge others just because they may be different.
-
-
- Yours in Liberation,
-
- Roy
-
-
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