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- From: onr@netcom.com (D. Owen Rowley)
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- Subject: Re: Forced Remedies
- Message-ID: <1993Jan25.213739.28840@netcom.com>
- Date: 25 Jan 93 21:37:39 GMT
- Article-I.D.: netcom.1993Jan25.213739.28840
- References: <18356@autodesk.COM> <1993Jan21.202947.28007@macc.wisc.edu> <TIM.93Jan23074922@ear-ache.mit.edu>
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- In article <TIM.93Jan23074922@ear-ache.mit.edu> tim@ear-ache.mit.edu (Tim Wilson) writes:
- >The "no less unfair" idea, continues to be
- >used to maintain the state of disadvantage. Opponents of equal
- >opportunity and equal rights use it, as well as "the pendulum's swung
- >too far," "reverse discrimination," and "white rights" to hide behind
- >their failure to get with the program of fairness and justice for all
- >people, regardless of attribute X.
-
- One thing to remember, those who are disadvantaged are not in their state
- solely because of unfair discrimination, those who are advantaged are not in
- their state solely because they discriminate unfairly.
-
- These are complex issues.
- Reverse discrimination is very real, and as I have stated several times,
- I do not believe that any form of quota based reverse discrimination type
- legal remedy to discrimination is proper. The fact that some small minded
- individuals hold the same belief as a mask for their prejudices does
- not invalidate my point.
-
- >If equal rights had been the situation for several hundred years, the
- >"no less unfair" idea might have some merit. Well they haven't been.
- >Equal rights for all is a fairly new idea, and if past injustices
- >aren't redressed, equal rights will never be achieved for any period of
- >time.
-
- Equal rights can be achieved immediately by making indivisable civil
- libertys the law of the land and backing them up with the force of law
- when they are broken via force or fraud.
-
- >A constructive idea might be to set some target dates for achievment
- >of measureable goals, and the provision that if those goals are met,
- >the affirmative action goes away; otherwise, it gets continued for
- >another fixed period of time.
-
- I believe that shifting inequality from the previously disadvantaged
- to the previously advantaged perpetuates inequality.
- I don't see this as constructive.
-
-
- LUX ./. owen
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- D. Owen Rowley onr@netcom.com ( also owen@autodesk.com )
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