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- From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
- Subject: Re: FBI Security Investigations
- Message-ID: <1993Jan25.003428.11547@macc.wisc.edu>
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- Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
- References: <=5j3jfh@rpi.edu> <1993Jan22.150448.4899@dvorak.amd.com> <1993Jan23.143722.5608@macc.wisc.edu> <1993Jan24.190410.25348@dvorak.amd.com>
- Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 00:34:28 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan24.190410.25348@dvorak.amd.com>
- tdbear@dvorak.amd.com (Thomas D. Barrett) writes:
-
- >In article <1993Jan23.143722.5608@macc.wisc.edu>
- >anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
-
- >>At the bottom line, the investigator's opinion,
- >>as long as it's not based on plain old bigotry, is all we
- >>have to go on.
-
- >But that is the problem when it is based on one (typically)
- >man's opinion. In most cases, a new-hire who is denied a
- >security clearance will be terminated rather than the
- >company actively appealing the decision.
-
- I suspect that as often as not (and maybe more often than
- that) some form of discrimination operates in case of
- applicants who are LGB. But we know some LGB people are
- granted high security clearances, and indeed people some of
- us here know have successfully challenged the government.
- But you're probably right that most of the time, it's
- decided on the say-so of one person.
-
- >I just don't have a warm and fuzzy feeling that the Bureau
- >gives a damn about making sure their investigators are not
- >biased. It sometimes is a crap shoot.
-
- This is true in lots of other hiring situations, of course,
- so to that extent it's one of the general discrimination
- problems, not just for FBI or NSA hires.
-
- >On a personal subject... I have never been in a position
- >where I needed a security clearance, and I don't think that
- >I would be happy working in a position where I really had to
- >have one. [reasons]
- >I'd much rather be asked
- >to leave the room than to not be able to sleep at nights.
-
- It wouldn't take me long to uncover scads of biases I hold
- about many aspects of this arena. I don't like the idea of
- spies, lies, deceptions, stings, or any of that. But
- neither can I quite imagine today's world without those
- things. So it comes down to one of those jobs *I* just can't
- imagine wanting, but I -- maybe a little reluctantly, if
- irrationally -- find myself being glad somebody's minding
- that part of the store.
-
- --
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