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- From: dem@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Doron Meyer)
- Subject: Re: Tips for coming out to friends?
- Message-ID: <1993Jan24.131549.1209@Princeton.EDU>
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- Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 13:15:49 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan24.065752.2143@macc.wisc.edu> anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
- >
- >In article <1jrdj1INNe5a@mizar.usc.edu>
- >adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (Arne Adolphson) writes:
- >
- >>I read these things and I wonder if I grew up on Mars. Is
- >>being gay *such* a big deal? I just can't believe it is.
- >
- >I read these things and conclude you *did* grow up on Mars,
- >hon. Ava rara that you are, it seems not to have been an
- >especially big deal for you. But it is for most people.
- >Most people are miles from anyone or anything, both
- >literally and figuratively.
-
- When I first read Arne's response, I was first upset at what
- I considered its insensitivity. But the more I thought about it,
- the more I realized how right Arne is. It *isn't* a big deal.
- But it certainly seems like it, and to a lot of other people,
- it *is* a big deal. Just ask CFV why they're going to all this trouble.
-
- This doesn't mean everything is peachy keen. It's not. But, like
- a lot of changes for teenagers, it can seem like the whole world
- has flipped on its ear. Not everyone has known or let themselves
- know since an early age.
-
- >>It really isn't a big deal. Oh sure, it seems like it's a
- >>huge thing, but who the fuck cares any more?
- >
- >Well, the person who's asking for support in this instance
- >has told us he's living with two clearly homophobic
- >roommates who are already hassling him and he isn't even out
- >to them. So I would say he cares, and maybe with good
- >reason. I don't think you can in good conscience just advise
- >a stranger across the country to throw all caution to the
- >winds. Doron has to live with the consequences of his
- >actions, and since we can't promise to be there for him when
- >the chips are down, I think he may know his local conditions
- >best. Fortunately, better support than he's been having is
- >available in New Jersey, and I think he's starting to access
- >it.
-
- Umm, Jess... I think you're confusing my thread and someone elses. I
- live in a single, thank god, nice and small and *my* *own*.. Of
- course, there are a lot of people in my dorm that are homophobic, but
- there are a lot who aren't. And, except for one friend who I told the
- other day, no one has the first clue. It went well, despite my bungling.
- I suppose that's Arne's point.. if it doesn't go well, it's *their* fault
- and they don't matter anyways. I can agree, but around this time
- when everything is changing regardless, to lose people who you
- thought were your friends is devastating.
-
- The other thread, about the guy with two homophobic roomates, is very
- scary. I thank my lucky stars I'm not in his shoes. I'm still
- in the closet, and will be for at least until college. Whatever
- problems I have for now are with myself, not anyone else.
-
- Doron
-