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- From: ailsa@wonky.UUCP (Ailsa N.T. Murphy)
- Newsgroups: soc.motss
- Subject: Re: what i did over xmas vacation, etc.\
- Message-ID: <55-JNEWS-2.1@wonky.UUCP>
- Date: 23 Jan 93 01:14:14 GMT
- References: <34-JNEWS-2.1@wonky.UUCP> <1993Jan19.195708.2420@midway.uchicago.edu> <58966@dime.cs.umass.edu> <C17rqt.5Hr@cs.vu.nl>
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- In article <C17rqt.5Hr@cs.vu.nl>, fjvwing@cs.vu.nl (FJ!!) writes:
- >
- > Ailsa, the only thing that gets me worried after your first post in
- > this thread, is the fear that we are going to lose your voice to
- > soc.bi. I think there is no way a human being could cope with reading
- > the volume of both newsgroups.
- >
- never! if i'm not going to be cold-shouldered (a silly irrational fear
- i realize, but aren't we all silly and irrationa l at times?), i'm not
- goign anywhere!
-
- agreed that no way can one cope with the traffic on both newsgroups.
- and neither can our machine. we get soc.motss, alt.pagan, and a.s.b.
- because i want them. if i asked to have soc.bi added TOO, i think
- orny'd have a brain aneurism on the spot. *grin* but soc.motss feels
- like home to me, especially after two and a half years... (i realize
- that's not long compared to a lot of the people here, but it's time
- enough for me to go from closeted lesbian with TS husband, to out
- lesbian with TS husband, to out divorced lesbian, to out biwomyn who is
- even a college graduate at long last!)
-
- > So you sleep with men. So do I.
- >
- well, man, singular, but who's counting... B)
-
- > No. Putting it like that is too simplistic and trivializes what you are
- > going through.
- >
- nah, s'ok. well, it might not be from someoen else, but from you, it's
- ok...
-
- > Ok, let's say something else, then.
- >
- > - I love your voice here.
- >
- well, thank you. *blush* *smile*
-
- > - Queer is a state of persona, not just of sexual identity.
- >
- rather. still terribly terribly queer.
-
- > - I can empathize to what you are going through, it must be very hard
- > to be so entrenched as we are made by a culture that regards us as
- > freaks, build up pride based on that, and then feel like you `have to
- > go back' to straight society and leave the people you have built our
- > pride with.
- >
- yeah. i may not be strictly homosexual, but i am CERTAINLY not
- straight. i can't do straight society, except on my terms, whihc
- include the assumption in all my conversations that i am attracted to
- women, and there is nothign wrong with thios fact and if people don't
- like it, they can always not listen. i tend to comment on movies,
- television, etc. and my straight audience be damned... *grin*
-
- > But that is not what is happening here, amiga. You are finding - or is
- > it rediscovering? - new parts to yourself. Enjoy the discovery.
- > Personally, I don't consider you to be less a lesbian, just more
- > straight.
- >
- eek! not much straight, just by definition mroe closeted *sigh* hard
- to be out when you are walking hand in hand with a motos in public.
- people see the pairing and ignore the buttons...
-
- > - And it really shouldn't matter.
-
- i agree... shouldn't matter to straight society who someone happens to
- be sleeping with, or who someoen loves, or to whom someoen is atracted
- to, either. but it does. *sigh* people are so nosy....
-
- -ailsa
-
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