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- From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
- Subject: Re: some thoughts
- Message-ID: <1993Jan23.051246.19878@macc.wisc.edu>
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- Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
- References: <1993Jan22.012830.13579@midway.uchicago.edu>
- Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 05:12:46 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan22.012830.13579@midway.uchicago.edu>
- jcav@kimbark.uchicago.edu (John Cavallino) writes:
-
- >[exchange with Walter Smith]
-
- >I'm posting it here now because it meant a lot to me to
- >write it, and because I've not (until now) been able muster
- >the courage to submit to this forum anything terribly
- >substantive.
-
- To you and to any others who find themselves for whatever
- reason reluctant to post, and most especially to those
- for whom ...
-
- >The eloquence of Joe Francis, Brent Capps, Jess Anderson,
- >Bob Donahue, Nelson Minar, Melinda Shore, Owen Rowley, Ellen
- >Seebacher (I'll stop now, even though I've left out so many
- >people) and others do intimidate one just a wee bit.
-
- ... please, *please* do not let such jitters affect you,
- and especially don't let such thoughts dissuade you from
- posting here. Every single one of us had a first time, and
- we wouldn't be here yet if we'd let any such concern stop
- us.
-
- In your letter to Walter (which I won't comment specifically
- about other than to say it was clear and entirely to the
- point), you mention, wisely, that we are not a monolith.
- Each of us is, no matter what our commonalities, a sovereign
- individual. Over time, you will see from any one of us,
- including the ones you didn't mention, both our group-
- oriented manifestations and our separate, unique ones. It's
- hard to see how it could be otherwise.
-
- Our political spectrum lies between the slightly left of
- center and the fairly far right of center. That mirrors US
- society quite closely. Our denizens of other countries tend
- to be more liberal, as a group, than the Americans here,
- though the Canadians (treading softly, because it's a point
- of some delicacy) are not so very differently placed on this
- spectrum from the Americans (fewer rightists up there, seems
- to me).
-
- Others may feel differently, but I think the closest we come
- to community here is in our political selves. Apart from
- that, and despite the obvious influence of computing in the
- lives of many of us, we are as disparate as any group of
- people could possibly be. Sexuality not really being a
- well-understood or properly definable thing, we're probably
- not even all that similar along that axis.
-
- But we probably all have one or more aspects of the things
- you were trying to explain to Walter (I doubt he'll answer,
- by the way, because I don't think he could without
- completely turning his closed world upside down) in our
- personal kit of experiences, and what provides the political
- glue is our common oppression, more than any other thing.
-
- Yet as recent threads about coming out and parental
- reactions, responses to the first few days of the Clinton
- presidency, opinions about what coffee is or isn't,
- characters on Deep Space Nine, bygone pop music, and the
- like amply display, there are dozens of ways to begin to be
- engaged in these pursuits.
-
- Don't be shy, just jump in.
-
- Your name, by the way, reminds me of an old boyfriend, Nino
- Cavallini, and it was he who first said right into my
- mother's face, "I love him and he loves me and I'm taking
- him away from here." I was 18. I went off to college about
- a month later and that was that. Wonder what ever happened
- to him, haven't heard a word of him in nearly 40 years.
-
- <> Where there is an open mind, there will always be a frontier.
- <> -- Charles F. Kettering
- --
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