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- From: owen@autodesk.com (D. Owen Rowley)
- Newsgroups: soc.motss
- Subject: Re: Rally round the FAG and sing a GLAD song
- Message-ID: <18461@autodesk.COM>
- Date: 22 Jan 93 19:00:56 GMT
- References: <18420@autodesk.COM> <1993Jan20.074855.19431@macc.wisc.edu> <TIM.93Jan21070833@ear-ache.mit.edu>
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- In article <TIM.93Jan21070833@ear-ache.mit.edu>, tim@ear-ache.mit.edu (Tim Wilson) writes:
- > In article <18436@autodesk.COM> owen@autodesk.com (D. Owen Rowley) writes:
- > I have attempted to point out the solid foundation of Libertarianisms
- > ethical - social - and political *principles* many times, and have
- > been met with fears and inuendo time after time.
-
- > Both social democracy and libertarianism are religions. Both have
- > foundations that any individual, given the right frame of mind and
- > historical setting, might find consistent with reality as she or he
- > has experienced it. Neither foundation is any more solid than the
- > that of any particular religion.
-
- I don't mean to imply that other political paradigms don't have
- their own foundation, my statement was inclusive of Libertarianism
- and the principles upon which it rests alone.
-
- > this brings me to "owens theory of queer".
- > I am an elitist. I think that I am really quite something.
- > I am creative, I am bright, I am witty, I am a great cocksucker,
- > and I'm proud of every bit of it.
- > <...>
- > I think that queer sexuality is creative sexuality, and that
- > creative people live more life in a day than their duller peers do
- > in years. I think the dull people get jealous.
- > I wouldn't trade with them for anything.
-
- > You've talked elsewhere about how hard it is to get people out of the
- > closet. There are hundreds of thousands of queer Jane and Joe Shmoes
- > out there who I think you'd label dull. They work as janitors or
- > dieticians or meat packers or bus drivers. They don't network
- > electroncially; they don't use "network" as a verb. They live lives of
- > quiet desparation. They are as queer as you or me.
-
- I understand, and I accept the criticism.
-
- But I still believe what I believe.
- as I said .. I *am an* elitist.
-
- > They might even
- > be better pussylickers or cocksuckers. Yet your elitism might be
- > consistent with their world view that the only "out" people are the
- > flamboyant, creative, artists types. If the above excerpts reflect
- > your theory of queer, how do you reconcile it with the lives of those
- > people? Can you dispose of them with such ease?
-
- I allow others to own and define themselves, thats one of those principles
- I was talking about. I don't need to reconcile my reality with everyone on
- the planet, that is not disposing of them, thats a reflection of my reality.
-
- my *theory of queer*, goes lots further than the little blurb I posted,
- and probably would be more politically incorrect than would be tolerated
- here.
-
- Lets just say that no matter what I may think, I have no desire to
- legislate of otherwise force anyone else to think likewise.
-
- LUX ./. owen
-
- --
- D. Owen Rowley {uunet,fernwood,sun}!autodesk!owen, owen@autodesk.com
- [ EU-PHORIA: A STATE OF WELL BEING ]
- Euphoria is my natural state, I do what I enjoy and an abundance
- of all good fortune comes to me for it.
-