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- From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
- Subject: Good But Better?
- Message-ID: <1993Jan22.090408.1978@macc.wisc.edu>
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- Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
- References: <18420@autodesk.COM> <1993Jan20.074855.19431@macc.wisc.edu> <18436@autodesk.COM>
- Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 09:04:08 GMT
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- In article <18436@autodesk.COM> owen@autodesk.com (D. Owen
- Rowley) writes:
-
- >this brings me to "owens theory of queer".
-
- >I am an elitist. I think that I am really quite something.
- >I am creative, I am bright, I am witty, I am a great
- >cocksucker, and I'm proud of every bit of it.
-
- You *are* an elitist. But then, there are elitists of
- several types. Also, you are those other things too
- (well, I don't know first-hand about that one, but then,
- I wouldn't -- too dull). Most importantly, you have every
- reason to be proud.
-
- >I was hesitant during my youth to let this light shine, but
- >in time I got over it. ( thus I shed some light with every
- >communication in the form of my LUX signoff)
-
- Any strategy that helps a person recover from the
- strictures, repressions, confusions, false starts,
- devaluations of self, or whatever it is for that person, is
- a good and necessary thing, I think. And sharing the light
- is also a very good thing, for many live in a darkness we
- know to be terrible, and there's the prospect of their being
- helped by our example.
-
- >I don't need a holy book to tell me that I should treat
- >others fairly, and I hold a low opinion of those who do.
-
- This is probably a major error on your part. Besides,
- you're not consistent about this, citing Druidic texts and
- your own "I often say" canon regularly. Of course, I agree
- with you insofar as we should do our own thinking and not be
- mindless adherents to received orthodoxies. I am certain
- there is much good to be got from that Yahweh Cult item, the
- Bible, even from the New Testament.
-
- The basis of my objection is your blanket rejection of the
- spiritual values of others because you don't esteem them
- for yourself. A person can't be *that* sure without being
- doctrinaire him- or herself.
-
- >I think that queer sexuality is creative sexuality, and that
- >creative people live more life in a day than their duller
- >peers do in years. I think the dull people get jealous. I
- >wouldn't trade with them for anything.
-
- This is simply absurd, Owen. The vast majority of humanity
- just got assigned to the dull set. They wouldn't trade with
- you, either, but the issue is: where does that leave us? In
- your formulation, "creative" is a battering ram about the
- head of anyone you decide isn't creative. The presumption
- is that "dull" people are less than you, as people.
-
- The long and the short of it is that you can celebrate
- yourself -- we all should, being divine -- as much as you
- like, as much as you feel you need to, without in the same
- breath putting down those you must live with, willy nilly.
- As principled stands go, this last one of yours seems not
- that principled, to me.
-
- --
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