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- From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
- Subject: Forced Remedies
- Message-ID: <1993Jan21.202947.28007@macc.wisc.edu>
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- Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
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- Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 20:29:47 GMT
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- In article <18356@autodesk.COM> owen@autodesk.com (D. Owen
- Rowley) writes:
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- >education can defeat ignorance by showing (not forcing) that
- >everyones self interest is served when eqaul rights are
- >fairly applied across the board.
-
- Education defeats ignorance by definition.
-
- Be that as it may, I agree that equality serves everyone.
- But the issue is what to do about those whom inequality
- serves better. Something rather like force may be needed, I
- think. How will you get around that?
-
- >Attempting to remedy past inequitys by tilting the balance
- >to force or mandate favor for the previously disadvantaged
- >is no less unfair than the ills it seeks to remedy.
-
- One problem with this is that unfairness is hard to measure,
- so "more unfair" and "less unfair" are perforce undefined.
- You know the old saying: fair is fair.
-
- 30 million Americans are illiterate. Educating illiterates
- is particularly difficult, since reading and writing are
- essential to what we think of as education. You would never
- under any circumstances divert resources from haves to help
- literacy have-nots?
-
- 40 million Americans are without health insurance. As a result,
- they suffer compound inequities wrt to health, with implications
- for productivity, self-respect, education, child-rearing, and
- a host of other aspects. You would never under any circumstances
- divert resources from haves to insurance have-nots?
-
- 20 million Americans are undernourished. Various inequities
- assure they will remain so. You would never under any
- circumstances divert resources from haves to assist food
- have-nots?
-
- At least 7 million Americans are living on the streets. You
- would never under any circumstances divert resources to
- provide shelter for those people (a few, mostly treatable
- schizphrenics, don't want it, but let's worry about them
- later)?
-
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