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- From: karl@ddsw1.mcs.com (Karl Denninger)
- Newsgroups: soc.men,alt.abortion.inequity,alt.feminism
- Subject: Re: Privacy -- and responsibility
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- Date: 24 Jan 93 16:13:52 GMT
- References: <1jkhsiINNese@gap.caltech.edu> <C181zo.B04@ddsw1.mcs.com> <1jnklfINNl1v@gap.caltech.edu>
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- In article <1jnklfINNl1v@gap.caltech.edu> peri@cco.caltech.edu (Michal Leah Peri) writes:
- >karl@ddsw1.mcs.com (Karl Denninger) writes:
- >
- >>In article <1jkhsiINNese@gap.caltech.edu> peri@cco.caltech.edu (Michal Leah Peri) writes:
- >>>
- >>>Not so. According to The Economist (Christmas issue, 1992) usually the
- >>>woman's standard of living drops after divorce. Often that of the man
- >>>rises.
- >
- >>So what? The salient question is this:
- >
- >> Did her standard of living <rise> when she got married? If so, then
- >> she has <returned> to her former standard of living, and has not
- >> been screwed in any way.
- >
- >No, actually the salient question would be: how does her post-divorce
- >standard of living compare to (1) what her standard of living would
- >be in the present if she had never married; and (2) what her standard
- >of living would be in the present if she had stayed married.
-
- Not true. She made the decision to marry OF HER OWN FREE WILL. The other
- party is not responsible for what she could have had as a career had she
- chosen to continue it (note that marriage does NOT mean you must stop
- working if you're a woman, only that it is convenient to do so if you can
- sap off a man instead). In fact, it could be argued that the man is owed
- instead if the woman decided at marriage not to work -- the man was deprived
- of some substantial portion of his funds as a result (he had to support
- her)
-
- Neither is it relavent what her standard of living would be if she had
- stayed married if the majority of the support during the marriage came
- from the man. Again, the choice to not work and continue her carrer was
- <hers>.
-
- >Unfortunately, as with most "what-if"s, the answers to this question
- >is impossible to ascertain. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
-
- So therefore you advocate "for the good of the woman" that her standard of
- living be maintained at the pre-divorce state.
-
- Are least you are consistent. Advocating that women get the best deal
- regardless of what that does to men, and regardless of whether you have any
- solid evidence that it is a fair assessment to make.
-
- --
- Karl Denninger (karl@ddsw1.MCS.COM, <well-connected>!ddsw1!karl)
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