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- From: q2tj@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
- Subject: Re: Women-Only / Men-Only Groups
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- Message-ID: <1993Jan27.114215.17054@vax5.cit.cornell.edu>
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- Organization: Cornell University
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- Date: 27 Jan 93 19:42:37 GMT
- References: <93Jan24.223605edt.18524@zooid.guild.org> <199301260026.AA03483@news.service.uci.edu>
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- cortese@skid.ps.uci.edu (Janis Maria Cortese) writes:
- >
- > I've heard so many men in my classes scream bloody murder over the
- > Society for Women Engineers. "Well, *I* couldn't make a Society for
- > MALE Engineers." No, you already have them. They are called IBM,
- > Rockwell, Northrup, Aerospace, Edison, et. al. Women's groups are
- > used for a specific purpose, trying to find our feet in a world not
- > designed for us.
-
- I don't doubt that many men have screamed, or at least muttered under
- their breaths about Society for Women Engineers.
-
- Curiously, the local chapter of Society of Women Engineers (SWE) has
- in past years been pretty slack about the idea that their "specific
- purpose" required a rigid "women-only" attitude. One year they
- elected a male president, and I heard that the other officers and
- members (i think all women) were perfectly happy. As far as I know
- they don't put "all women welcome" on the bottem of their
- campus-poster advertisments as most of the other equivalent
- organizations do.
-
- I even went to one of their more socially oriented meeting once, and
- about 20-30% men showed up. The membership has been all women just
- about all the time, but the officers their said they didn't care
- whether men came to the meetings or wanted to be dues paying members.
- This may have changed since then. Does anyone here know what SWE's
- (national) membership rules are (past and/or present). For all I know
- this was a maverick chapter, so I hope someone in SWE will be able to
- post the straight-scoop on this organization.
-
- I really got the strong impression that the SWE chapter here did not
- want to be stigmatized or characterized as a strict-women-only group
- (in fact on officer at the meeting said this explicitly since a bunch
- of men had shown up) It seemed that all the women members were
- perfectly comfortable with the idea that they would carry on to serve
- the interests of women engineers whether there were men around or not.
- (I wonder if the group was dominated by non-feminists at the time ;-)
- I haven't had any involement with SWE, but have had positive
- impressions of them because of this; and also because they have a big
- engineering quad-party for everyone once a year.
-
- So, maybe it's possible that sometimes women's interests don't always
- need a strictly women's only policy. I do understand that any
- organization runs the risk of being co-opted etc. Depends on the
- particular circumstances.
-
- Steve Seidman
-
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