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- From: viking@bnr.ca (Harold Henrikson)
- Subject: Re: Info on Macedonia
- Message-ID: <1993Jan25.131902.27829@bmerh85.bnr.ca>
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- References: <1993Jan22.014007.6171@news.weeg.uiowa.edu> <C19Kov.58I@gabriel.keele.ac.uk> <1993Jan23.003014.14286@news.weeg.uiowa.edu>
- Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 13:19:02 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan23.003014.14286@news.weeg.uiowa.edu>, lolonis@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Panagiotis Lolonis) writes:
- |> cla04@seq1.keele.ac.uk (A.T. Fear) writes:
- |>
- |> >> group of people. In this case the rights of Greeks who live in Macedonia,
- |> >> Greece, are violated by the request of Skopjeans to gain recognition
- |> >> under the name "Macedonians".
- |>
- |> >This is a circular argument resting on the assumption that only
- |> >GraecoMacedonians have the right to the name Macedonian.
- |>
- |> First, the term "GraecoMacedonians" is a new one, according to my knowledge.
- |> Up to this point the Greeks who lived in Macedonia were called simply
- |> Macedonians (Alexander the Great and Aristotles were simply Macedonians
- |> -a subset of Greeks,- not GraekoMacedonians. )
-
- Aristotle was an Athenian.
-
- |>
- |> Second, it is the Skopjeans who ask for recognition. Therefore, it is
- |> up to them to prove (with historical, geographical etc) arguments that
- |> they diserve the title "Macedonians".
-
- Deserve the title? And I suppose Greece can prove it deserves the title 'Greece'?
- Can parents prove their children 'deserve' the names they wish to give them?
-
- |>
- |>
- |> > But this is what needs to be proved and the burden of proof rests firmly on
- |> > the group who wish to appropriate this name for their exclusive use. As yet
- |> >I have seen no good arguments used in this regard. I fail to see how
- |> >sharing a name violates any one's rights.
-
- I must have missed this one. When did Macedonia tell Greece it can't use the
- name Macedonia for its province?
-
-
- |>
- |> Second. Suppose that Macedonia, Greece, decides to become an independent
- |> country (Just for the example folks!!!!). Can she apply to gain recognition
- |> in the UN, as the "Republic of Macedonia", if the Republic of Skopje has
- |> already been recognized as "Republic of Macedonia"?
- |>
- |> The answer is no. Macedonia, Greece, must apply under a different name!
- |>
- Its called 'first come, first served'. An example closer to home. Here in
- Canada we have a real possibility that part of our country will be separating
- in the near future. Now, historically, the part that wishes to separate originated
- the name Canada. So if they wish to take back that name do they have the right to
- do so? The answer should be no but who can stop them? Personally, they have my
- blessing to it to look ridiculous.
- |>
- |>
- |> >Andy
- |>
- |> Friendly,
- |> Panos Lolonis
- |> U. of Iowa
- |>
- |>
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- Harold Henriksen Bell-Northern Research
- email: viking@bmerh694.bnr.ca Ottawa,Ontario,Canada
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