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- Subject: Re: A question
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- Date: 25 Jan 93 12:23:16 GMT
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- In article <MUCIT.93Jan24155646@slate.cs.rochester.edu>, mucit@cs.rochester.edu (Bulent Murtezaoglu) writes:
- >
- >
- > While I am no fan of Ugur Mumcu, I am deeply disturbed by the recent
- > series of murders of people who clearly did nothing more than expressing
- > their ideas. Their ways of expression might have been strong and maybe
- > unorthodox to for some, but nevertheless there was no clear-cut libel, no
- > swearing, but just expression and publication of thoughts and investigations.
- > Judging by the sampling of people on s.c.t. , there doesn't seem to be a
- > widespread respect for free expression of thought. A disturbing number of
- > people seem to want to ban the expression of whatever set of ideas they are
- > against, and some others resort to associating disagreement with their
- > set of taboos with treachery and sacrilege. This pattern seems to prevail
- > across "party lines" as evidenced by the assertions that one needs to
- > buy into the hard-line approach to Islam to even be considered a decent
- > person, and that one needs to shun all criticism and indeed suppress evidence
- > of despotic tendencies of Ataturk to be a patriotic Turk, or that one needs
- > to blindly support "Argic" no matter what he says and how he says it to
- > protect the image of our country. If one doesn't fit the above descriptions
- > one is an idolator or an embodiment of evil in one case, unpatriotic and
- > disgraceful in other, and a "brown nose" whose motives in questioning
- > a style of discourse must be somehow dirty in yet another. More often than
- > not, some folks claim that Turkey would be better off w/o the people they
- > disagree with. A smaller, but still a disturbing number prescribe cures
- > for what they're convinced is a sickness. Those solutions are mostly radical
- > such as military coups, banning non-violent associations, and doing away with
- > secular government. Pervasive in most such points of view is the call for
- > some sort of coercion from a higher institution towards people who simply
- > talked/thought a certain way, wore certain things, or did or didn't partake
- > in certain ceremonies and did nothing else.
- >
- > Now, I know the above description is overly pessimistic
- > and there is a silent crowd if not a majority who just go about minding their
- > own business. But it is also evident that there's much truth in the above
- > description. What I'd like opinions on is how and when in people's
- > upbringing in Turkey this tendency towards intolerance and blind
- > acceptance of taboos creep into people's intellectual make-up. In other
- > words, what characteristics of our culture are conducive to intolerance and
- > blind faith?
- >
- > It could also be that I'm way off base here. If so, I'd like an
- > explanation of the difference between asserting that it's the duty of
- > patriotic Turks to disallow critical analysis of the early history of the
- > republic, and the assertion that it's the duty of the "submitters to God's
- > will" to disallow critical analysis of origins of Islam. I think that I could
- > do a semi-smart global search and replace of some buzzwords in some postings
- > and transform one sort into another :).
- >
- > What do you think?
-
- ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH YOU.
- >
- > cheers,
- >
- > BM
- REGARDS.
-
- T.Y.
-