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- From: faigin@aero.org (Daniel P. Faigin)
- Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
- Subject: Re: Torah is the center of every Jew? (was Orthadox Judaism and women)
- Date: 24 Jan 93 06:14:50
- Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
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- In-reply-to: cs922177@ariel.yorku.ca's message of Sun, 24 Jan 1993 00:46:37 GMT
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- On Sun, 24 Jan 1993 00:46:37 GMT, cs922177@ariel.yorku.ca (DANIEL T FARKAS)
- said:
-
- > Orthodoxy does not change their rules period.
-
- Not true. If you compare what Orthodoxy was even as far back as the middle
- ages, compared with what Orthodoxy is today, you'll find that the rules have
- been changed. Traditions have become rules. Things have been adapted for
- modern understandings. Rulings have been examined. Orthodoxy does change (or
- else your argument that Orthodoxy is not a stagnent religion wouldn't hold
- water). It's just that the change is much slower.
-
- > Reform does change "to suit the times".
-
- This is a misconception. Reform does change, but not "to suit the times".
- Rather, Reform believes the process of interpretation is still continuing to
- this day; it changes based on its interpretation of the historical sources.
-
- > Unfortunately, I still
- > don't fully understand when the Reform movement is "allowed" to change
- > the rules, and on what they base their changes.
-
- Change is allowed because the Reform movement believes the Torah was written
- by the hand of man in a language man at that time could understand, but was
- divinely inspired and contains timeless truths. It must be continually
- reinterpreted in light of what man can currently understand. These "changes"
- are based on Torah, Talmud, and the writings of learned scholars from talmudic
- times to present times. Read one of the books of Reform Responsa, esp.
- Freehof's or Jacob's, to see what I mean.
-
- > The Reform movement, doesn't agree with anything I just said. They feel
- > that man has the right to change the laws to "suit the times". I can't
- > explain why, but I'm sure Daniel Faigin can, so I'll leave that to him.
-
- See my note above.
-
- Daniel
-
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