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- From: verma@pfeast.enet.dec.com (Virendra Verma)
- Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
- Subject: Re: U.S. Citizen NRIs Please leave India alone (Re: BJP)
- Message-ID: <1993Jan25.184515.27517@ryn.mro4.dec.com>
- Date: 25 Jan 93 21:10:51 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan23.030810.2374@galois.mit.edu>, kumar@carleman.mit.edu (Kumar) writes...
-
- >So we see the true colors - like expatriates khalistanis and kasmiris
- >here we have the group of fundamentalists promoting their ideas in their
- >land of origin and that support has partly filled up RSS/BJP/VHP pockets
- >and is responsible for so much death and destruction following the temple
- >mess. Mr. Verma will you please tell us also how much stake (through
- >investments) you have in India's well being? If you do not then shut up
- >and if you do then you are burning your money by supporting the rabble-
- >rousers.
-
- I am doing a great service to India by fighting Indian negativism
- abroad. This is working. Today the USA and other countries have
- better understanding of India's problems because of the writing
- of Verma-like views.
-
- We have lot of stake in India. What can be a better stake than
- our own culture?
- >
- >Definitely the people living
- >there (and that includes millions of minorities) definitely have much
- >larger stake than you and please do not destroy their economy with your
- >support for BJP et al (known through your posts over last months).
- >
-
- If you were right, BJP should be losing popularity.
-
- >Have you estimated how much financial loss alone India has taken because
- >of the temple building agenda pursued by BJP/VHP in last 2 months alone?
- >What is the expected result which can be worth that economic cost and
- >worth so many lives lost?
- >
-
- That is nothing compared to bribes and kickbacks which goes to
- selfish Congress goondas who in your opinion are the well wishers
- of India. These people are the real enemies of India.
-
- >BTW, just like India is hindu majority, this country is christian
- >majority and western thought centered. Will like to known why
- >Pat Robertson and Pat Buchanan and David Duke should tolerate you
- >here?
-
- But I am not propagating my Hindu beliefs on them. I am fighting
- Indian negativism which is quite different than the concerns of
- minorities in India.
-
- They better tolerate as long as they declare U.S. as a democratic
- country. If the country turns into racism, I have no problem but
- let them declare first.
-
- I don't think I have ever said that we want Muslims out of the
- country. That is the bold imagination of psuedo-secularists about
- V.Verma-like mentality.
-
- >If you should be given the nice treatment here why not
- >minorities in India?
-
- I don't get and expect pamper from U.S. government or any
- majority from this country. I compete with them. I believe in
- work not favors or luck.
-
- BTW, I didn't get any nice treatment ever from any American. Had
- to struggle a lot from student vista to labor certificate to green
- card and to citizenship. That was not a nice feeling. Still I don't
- complain about it because I truly believe in struggle and
- competition. If I will be kicked out here, I will take it nicely and
- compete elsewhere, may be this time in India since I will now
- have more resources to fight the Indian system.
-
- Well I had to move to the U.S., not because I didn't want to
- serve my country but because I could not afford to bribe the
- system and parents (still a poor farmer in northern India) had
- no access to elites. But still I am doing my best to help India
- without breaking any laws.
-
- I am not the one who get scared because my true wealth is my
- confidence, skill and motivation.
-
- >Ofcourse many hindus of your variety will
- >love it if Diwali or Holi were to be declared a holiday and Hindi
- >instruction alongwith Ramanyana and Mahabharata offered in schools
- >- will that be pandering the minority at the cost of majority.
- >Have you ever taken advantage of being 'an asian minority' through
- >affirmative action? Do you think that your children who might not
- >do so well in schools here [high school life here has many more
- >pressures] should take advantage of affirmative action to get ahead?
- >
-
- If they do it they will get benefit not me. And they can't because
- history shows their temperament. Have you read western version
- of Mahabharat? It is disgusting. They have lost what the epic was
- supposed to teach.
-
- The problem is that you really don't understand Hinduism.
-
- >Sorry about raising so many questions but that is probably the only
- >way you will understand the tolerance required in India and the impediment
- >BJP/VHP/RSS are to that very tolerance. May be
- >an anti-Indian riot by some digruntled group will make you all
- >see the light.
- >
-
- I understand very well. Tolerance is not cowardice or weakness. It
- requires courage to tell the truth. Don't demand renunciation to
- fight from weak because he/she can't fight. Don't talk about
- tolerance if you can't speak up the truth.
-
- >It is so sad that even though you are a minority here you can not understand
- >the problems faced by a minority in India. Is it possible that
- >persecution that you might have faced here has made you beleive that
- >Hindus are persecuted in India?
- >
- >Sanjay
- >
-
- I have no problem here even being a minority. Why the minority
- should have any problem back home? Why the minority need pampering
- from majority? Why can't they stand on their own? Why they need
- so much favor from GoI?
-
- namaste,
-
- -- Virendra Verma
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